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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 07:48 AM
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Quinnipiac: "It's difficult to find a modern presidential race that's swung so dramatically"
Poll: Obama crushing McCain in battlegrounds
RAW STORY
Published: Wednesday October 1, 2008



Last week's presidential debate bounced Barack Obama past majority support in three key swing states that have helped decide the last two elections.

The Democratic candidate has surpassed 50 percent in Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida, and he holds leads over Republican John McCain of eight to 15 points, according to a new Quinnipiac swing state poll.

In Florida, its Obama with support from 51 percent of voters to McCain's 43 percent. Ohio has it for Obama 50-42, and Pennsylvania gives Obama his largest lead 54-39, according to the poll. The poll reflects a small bounce compared to Obama's pre-debate numbers and reflects more voter confidence in his ability to handle the economy.

Gov. Sarah Palin's sagging favorability and more voter confidence in Sen. Barack Obama's ability to handle the economy are propelling the Democrat to wider likely voter leads over Republican John McCain in Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania, according to simultaneous Quinnipiac University Swing State polls released today.

Quinnipiac notes that no president has been elected since 1960 without winning two of those three swing states.

"It is difficult to find a modern competitive presidential race that has swung so dramatically, so quickly and so sharply this late in the campaign. In the last 20 days, Sen. Barack Obama has gone from seven points down to eight points up in Florida, while widening his leads to eight points in Ohio and 15 points in Pennsylvania," said Peter Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.

"Sen. John McCain has his work cut out for him if he is to win the presidency and there does not appear to be a role model for such a comeback in the last half century," Brown added.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Poll_Obama_crushing_McCain_in_battlegrounds_1001.html
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 07:57 AM
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1. K&R!!!
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:07 AM
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2. That's excellent. How does Quinnipiac rate as a polling organization?
I guess I'm trying not to get my hopes up, since this is "game over" if true. So, does Quinn. have a good rep for getting it right?
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applexcore Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:09 AM
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3. They're considered just as accurate as most
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:38 AM
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12. Good to know. Thanks! (nt)
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 09:01 AM
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26. They're most accurate in the Northeast, where they're based.
So take the Florida numbers with a grain of salt, and the Ohio numbers might be a little off, but Pennsylvania they're probably right on the button.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 12:05 AM
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39. Rather than anecdote, here's some fact....
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:11 AM
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4. great news! but for some reason the phrase
"peaking too soon" is in my head.

ok hang on.





there. better.
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LiberadorHugo Donating Member (557 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:40 AM
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13. Obama = Muhammad Ali
The rope-a-dope analogies are extremely apt: Obama wins big by tricking his opponents and the media into underestimating him, yet right they think they have him cornered, they end up down for the count. And like Ali, Obama is as much a hero and a catalyst for positive change in the community as he is on the stage.
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:49 AM
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21. I don't think so. Ohio started voting yesterday and we (FL) start voting in less than three weeks.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 11:40 PM
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37. mccain peaked too soon and Obama
hasn't even peaked yet.
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Schulzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:13 AM
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5. McCain deverses it.
Edited on Wed Oct-01-08 08:13 AM by Schulzz
I think it is also difficult to find a worse campaign.
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eshfemme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:14 AM
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6. This is basically a repeat of the primary battles, isn't it?
McCain underestimated Obama and thought he could coast on the election apparatus built by the Bush campaigns and instead of pushing the envelope in innovative ways, he pushed the envelope when it came to Rovian tactics. Obama's riskier but inventive use of social networking, web 2.0 technologies and good old fashioned on the ground campaigning required more investment in terms of manpower and money but it is paying off dividends now.

Seriously, I'd be surprised if Obama loses-- the only way they can win is if they do something to steal the election. That's the next part of what Obama needs to do-- to ensure that the election is NOT stolen again.
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yowzayowzayowza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:16 AM
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7. Sweet!!!
:bounce:
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:23 AM
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8. recommend
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:28 AM
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9. Wow. That's awesome. nt
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:31 AM
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10. OBAMA CRUSHING MCBUSH IN BATTLEGROUNDS!!!!
:bounce::bounce::bounce::woohoo::woohoo::toast::toast::applause::applause::party::party:
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:35 AM
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11. Deserves another kick. No one has picked this up yet.
Spread the good news!!
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LiberadorHugo Donating Member (557 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:43 AM
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14. If he's winning by those kinds of margins in OH and FL...
I think we will see victories in Colorado, Indiana, Missouri, Nevada, Virginia, West Virginia, North Carolina, and Montana.
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:44 AM
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15. Obama has been saying all along in reference to the polls
that people had not made up their minds yet and that it would take until October for them to do so. It came a little earlier because of McLame's performance in the first debate AND the debacle on Wall Street. I don't see this as a change, I see it as a progression.
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:44 AM
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16. K&R!!
:kick: GOBAMA!!
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:44 AM
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17. And in the case of Ohio, they're voting as we speak
This is a good time to be peaking.
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:48 AM
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20. Did you see the photos posted last night
of people voting before sunrise in Ohio yesterday morning? Something tells me those weren't McSame-Palin voters. Inspiring! GObama!
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:49 AM
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22. Link?
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 09:01 AM
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27. I know I didn't dream it because I showed it to Mr. pup
but I can't find the thread. I'll keep looking.
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 09:05 AM
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29. This is the thread.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7261729

I could have sworn that there was a photo of people camping out in tents waiting for the polls to open yesterday morning. The scene is well described though in a thread by Botany. :hi:
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:45 AM
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18. K&R!
For welcome news. :dem:
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:46 AM
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19. LOVE IT!!!
K&R
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:49 AM
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23. They should throw in a polling Q on The Great Schlep.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:56 AM
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24. McCain has made himself look so bad...
an old man I know who is quite racist said to me this weekend that after the campaign "suspension" stunt, McSame's poor debate showing, the gas shortages here in the Southeast, and the situation with the economy, that Obama is "looking whiter every day".
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 01:16 AM
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41. Now see,
That's funny! Obama is "looking whiter every day"!


Love it!

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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 08:58 AM
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25. Kick!
:kick:
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 09:02 AM
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28. Great news, but that picture of the two of them freaks me out a bit.
I swear to god, it looks like they're gonna KISS or something! Ewww...

:D
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 09:25 AM
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30. Last week's presidential debate bounced Barack Obama past majority support in three key swing states
KICK IT! :kick:
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Sugarcoated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 09:53 AM
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31. This news is wonderful!
A question, though. In their pre-debate polls for FL, PA & OH Quinipiac have Obama up 5 or 6 points. PA was the only state I was seeing that kind of lead in before the debate. I don't doubt for a second Obama is pulling away in these states, but I don't get the pre-debate poll numbers.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x2882.xml?ReleaseID=1218

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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 10:01 AM
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32. great story
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 10:36 AM
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33. Get ready for the mud. I heard that fraud Bill Bennett discussing it this morning with some Pubbie
operative - how the only chance McCain has now is to drag Obama down. Also Bill "Everybody else should be virtuous" Bennet was blathering about the latest meme, Gwen Ifill and how she has a conflict of interest because if Obama wins she will sell a lot more books. It is not clear how a moderator could show favortism when they have strict rules about asking the same question of each candidate, the order is decided by coin toss, etc. but anyway that doesn't stop them from blathering about it.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 12:01 AM
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38. That's what was great about our long primary.
Whatever real or perceived "dirty laundry" of Obama's existed was vetted and uncovered earlier this year, so I highly doubt anything is going to come and bite us in the ass at this late date.

As for playing the race card...he's black (well, biracial, but I digress). It's not exactly a secret--people have, one way or the other, chosen to accept/celebrate or demean him based upon that fact. The point being, it's long been over and done with.
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 01:48 PM
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34. numbers don't matter if we don't consider theft.
Edited on Wed Oct-01-08 01:48 PM by tomp
they stole the last two. why will they not try this time?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 03:17 PM
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35. Bullshit.
They just realized there was no way to spin this one so they finally started to tell the truth.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 11:36 PM
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36. Chills....
reading that. Wow!
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 12:10 AM
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40. McGovern ... Mondale ... McCain - historic ass kickings!
Edited on Thu Oct-02-08 12:11 AM by TexasObserver
I was on the receiving end with McGovern and Mondale. It'll be nice to be on the side doing the ass kicking!!
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