southpaw
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Wed Oct-01-08 10:34 AM
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The Republicans don't want Ifill to be replaced |
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Edited on Wed Oct-01-08 10:37 AM by southpaw
They want her to be the moderator!
Are we seriously supposed to believe that nobody knew anything about Ifill's book until the day before the debate?
Oh, they want everyone to know about the book. They want the public to be made aware of it, but only after it is too late to realistically make any changes.
This works to their advantage no matter what the outcome of the debate.
If Palin does well, it will be in spite of the fact that the moderator was clearly biased against her. Just imagine how much better she could have done with a fair referee!
If Palin tanks, it's just another example of the biased liberal media treating her unfairly.
This whole thing fucking sucks.
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Wed Oct-01-08 10:35 AM
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1. Exactly! You're exactly right!! They will use Ifill as a shield if she does poorly |
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Wed Oct-01-08 10:37 AM
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2. We need to have her replaced. I wonder if Moyers is available. |
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Wed Oct-01-08 10:42 AM
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9. Why? She was selected by the nonpartison debate commission. Why do WE need to have her replaced? |
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This is a Pubbie obfuscation to detract from Palin's deficiencies. I cannot believe so many are falling for it.
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Wed Oct-01-08 10:44 AM
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12. Obfuscation? How do you mean? |
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Edited on Wed Oct-01-08 10:45 AM by redqueen
It's a ready-made excuse is what it is. I think we'd do best to at least not knowingly help them.
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Wed Oct-01-08 10:51 AM
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17. I mean they are throwing up mud to see what sticks in order to divert attention. They were fine |
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with Ifill until Palin started tanking. They know she is a fair moderator from past debates and they certainly knew about her book before, you can bet on that. So what has changed? Sarah has started to tank, that is what has changed. Divert. Divert. Divert. If someone else is substituted for Ifill you can bet they will find something wrong with them to explain a poor debate performance by Palin. Anyway, this will not pass the sniff test with the public once they see how Ifill conducts herself in the debate.
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Wed Oct-01-08 10:54 AM
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18. You have FAR more confidence in the public's ability or willingness |
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Edited on Wed Oct-01-08 10:55 AM by redqueen
to think for themselves than I do.
I talked to someone in California on Monday who said the consensus she hears is that the last debate was a draw.
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Wed Oct-01-08 11:09 AM
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22. "I talked to someone in California who said the consensus she hears...." |
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Do you have any idea how absurd that sounds? Where did she hear this "consensus?" Around the water cooler at work?
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Wed Oct-01-08 11:11 AM
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23. Yes. Those would be voters. |
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:wtf:
I guess you don't put any stock at all in "word on the street". Hearing that kind of opinion from educated people, in Cali of all places... surprising. Although I guess not really... they do seem to like Arnold, don't they? No M$M spin gets past those Californians! :sarcasm:
Here in my office, most people think McCain did a good job. I'm pretty positive most people in this state do as well, though...
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Wed Oct-01-08 11:15 AM
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24. Hmm. I think I will take the word of the many polls showing otherwise over the consensus of two |
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Wed Oct-01-08 11:17 AM
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25. Are those national polls? |
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Or polls in swing states?
Seriously... I don't even bother looking at polls really. I remember the online polls were clearly for Obama right after the debate...
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Wed Oct-01-08 11:50 AM
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28. Both. Sorry, but as flawed as they are, polls are more reliable than "everyone I know thinks....." |
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Wed Oct-01-08 11:53 AM
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As I said... not all polls are equal. I guess I'll just take your oh-so-polite and pleasant word for it that the swing state polls all show Obama leading.
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Wed Oct-01-08 04:11 PM
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31. No need to take my word. Here are the post debate polls. |
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Wed Oct-01-08 10:55 AM
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19. I'd be fine with Greta Van Susteren (sp?) |
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I don't really think the moderator is going to have much effect on the performance of the debaters, anyway. Any truly biased behavior on the part of the moderator would be too obvious to be ignored, and allowing a Fox pundit to be the mod would defuse the right's 'biased moderator' defense.
Can you imagine how they would react if someone like Van Susteren were announced to replace Ifill?
They wouldn't know what to do!
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Wed Oct-01-08 10:37 AM
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3. of coure, Ifill is being set up as a scapegoat when Palin implodes |
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Wed Oct-01-08 10:40 AM
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8. Just like the Pelosi speech |
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Do you think there is a single House republican who, if given the power, would turn back the clock and make Nancy Pelosi NOT give the speech?
NO!
They were able to use it as cover for their own cowardice. Flimsy cover, to be sure, but the pugs were happy to have it immediately following the vote.
They are loving this Ifill deal, and wouldn't change it if they could
All the hew and cry we see today is pure political theater!
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Wed Oct-01-08 10:37 AM
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4. Blame IFIL, she should quit....she compromised the debate already |
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somebody else should do it....otherwise palin-mccain can only benefit off this
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Wed Oct-01-08 10:39 AM
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6. Not to mention that she fell down the stairs yesterday (or the day before) and supposedly broke her |
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ankle. She should be home, keeping it elevated, watching the debate on TV!
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Wed Oct-01-08 10:39 AM
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7. How so - because she wrote a book about black leaders (not just Obama)? |
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Wed Oct-01-08 10:43 AM
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11. I have no problem with Ifill being the mod. |
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I'm confident that she will be fair, maybe even giving Palin a small degree of leeway to avoid seeming 'too harsh' with her.
My concern is that the pigs can only stand to gain by selling the meme that, since she wrote a book with 'Obama' in the title, she's a screaming Democratic shill.
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Wed Oct-01-08 11:21 AM
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27. Oh yeah, golly, better have the objective Tom Brokaw |
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Who really appreciates McSame's brilliance and understands that God wants him to be our next president.
Mr. Brokaw said he had also conducted some shuttle diplomacy in recent weeks between NBC and the McCain campaign. His mission, he said, was to assure the candidate’s aides that — despite some negative on-air commentary by Mr. Olbermann in particular — Mr. McCain could still get a fair shake from NBC News.
See? He knows our mission. He knows we must all support Senator McSame and give Palin every chance to win. She's better with a guy moderator.
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Wed Oct-01-08 10:37 AM
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5. Just as they don't really want abortion made illegal. |
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Wed Oct-01-08 10:43 AM
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10. Of course they want Ifill. She's a great excuse for the day after. |
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Wed Oct-01-08 10:44 AM
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13. Please HELP -- WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??????? |
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I've spent the last 5 minutes digging around DU and cannot find out about this story.
-- WHAT BOOK?
-- How does it alledgely compromise Ifill?
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Wed Oct-01-08 11:00 AM
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21. Here's a decent summary |
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Wed Oct-01-08 11:51 AM
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29. Thanks very much! I REALLY appreciate it - this is ridiculous n/t |
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Wed Oct-01-08 10:44 AM
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14. How about Pavlov as the moderator. |
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Wed Oct-01-08 10:45 AM
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15. I'm hoping that scenario applies to Palin! |
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As soon as the debate begins, she dissolves into a pool of dog slobber.
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Wed Oct-01-08 10:47 AM
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16. Palin can't handle Ifill, but can be trusted to take on Putin? |
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Wed Oct-01-08 10:56 AM
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20. They are providing Palin with advance excuses for her senseless answers. |
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Wed Oct-01-08 11:18 AM
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26. Wonder if they'd accept Tina Fey instead - Not that would be entertaining |
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instead of just sad and pitiful
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Wed Oct-01-08 04:18 PM
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32. I agree fully and was skewered on the board this AM for suggesting that I wanted Ifill pulled |
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Wed Oct-01-08 04:20 PM
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33. this is comical....ms ifill is a professional... |
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Wed Oct-01-08 04:22 PM
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34. Yup... it'll definitely be Ifill's fault if she asks the "tough" questions: |
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1. What newspapers do you like to read 2. Now that you've had 2 weeks to come up with a better answer, let me ask you again how being close to Russia helps your international experience 3. Let's talk about the $700 Billion dollar bailout of the economy
Freepers: "OHHHH MYYYY GAWWD.. OHHH NOOOOESS... Look at the tough questions that poor Saracuda had to answer". :eyes:
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Wed Oct-01-08 04:24 PM
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35. Do we know for a fact that this is true (her book) or just a Drudge rumor? |
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Wed Oct-01-08 04:30 PM
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37. You can pre-order the book on Amazon.com |
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Due to be released on inauguration day.
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Wed Oct-01-08 04:26 PM
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36. Does anyone remember Ifill as the moderator of the Edwards/cheney |
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Debate? I read that she was dispectful to John and gave dick a pass.
This was more than a few interpretations..does anyone else have another view.
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