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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 12:52 AM
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Interesting...Palin appears to be just about off the Freeper team.
Edited on Thu Oct-02-08 12:58 AM by ourbluenation
Video: Palin on Supreme Court decisions she disagrees with
Hotair.com ^ | 10/01/08 | Allahpundit

Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2008 5:19:56 PM by acsuc99

A bad answer not because it’s so awkward but because she lacks the knack for spinning tough questions to her advantage in a way politicians ought to be able to. E.g., “Any decision is a bad decision, Katie, where the Court arrogates to itself the right to decide difficult questions which, in a democracy, should be left to the public.” An answer like that would have gone a long way towards countering Biden’s dopey point about the virtue of Roe v. Wade lying in its expression of consensus. Hey, Joe? Consensus is best determined at the ballot box. If Biden disagrees with that, I encourage him to let the Supreme Court decide who should be the next president. It sounds from WaPo at this point like Palin’s going to try to bait Biden into a fatal gaffe tomorrow night to cover any missteps she might commit. Not a bad idea in light of the new CBS poll: “Women’s perception of Palin has become increasingly negative. On Sept. 8th, Palin had a 47 percent favorable rating among women and a 19 percent unfavorable; now her favorable rating among the group is down to 30 percent, while her unfavorable has risen to 34 percent.” Exit question: She’s on record as opposing the Supreme Court’s ruling on punitive damages in the Exxon Valdez case. Why didn’t she just mention that? Update: Karl e-mails, “Biden’s a senior member of the Judiciary Committee. Try asking him about the Alaskan pipeline and see how he does.”

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I saw it. It was embarrassing. This makes her performance tomorrow night a make or break situation in my opinion. If she can’t pull it off tomorrow, if she can’t come up with answers that are coherent and on point then it is over for her.

That said I have to say that from what I have read recently the McCain campaign had assigned people from the Bush administration to coach her and prep her for these things. How anyone could think that people from the Bush administration are comepetent to handle the media or communicate effectively is beyond me. The Bush administration has demonstrated over and over for the past 7+ years that communication and media management are about as familiar to them as the dark side of the moon. To entrust Governor Palin’s media prep to such people borders on malicious intent - they couldn’t have done more to torpedo her if they had tried.

3 posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2008 5:28:02 PM by scory
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This sucks. They still have a month to desroy her completely. McClame is looking more and more like Dole. I don’t know. If she gets preped to the McClame reach across the aisle bi-partisan baloney. She will look stupid at the debate. I would say let her go. Nothin to lose at this point. Good luck Sarah. I think I will get my absentee ballot vote for McClame forget all this BS and go fishin.

4 posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2008 5:28:13 PM by screaminsunshine
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Couric asked some pretty interesting questions, and the truth is Sarah wasn’t very adept at answering them.

Sarah, welcome to the NFL!

9 posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2008 5:31:01 PM by WilliamReading
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Where is this confidenc in her miraculous abilities coming from?

If she was “that” amazing, would she be shielded like she has been?

Best thing going for her is the FORMAT.

Two minutes, and then thirty second rebuttal. There won’t be FOLLOW UP questions, which have been her demise so far.

She can fill that space up, launch some attacks and then kill another 30 seconds.

Biden is going to be injected with RHINO tranquilizers before they allow him to step on the stage.

His plan would obviously be to extent Sarah some rope and so far she has not turned down the offer once.

She needs to be told to NOT answer any question or request for explanation coming from Biden.

On TECHNICAL questions, where actual understanding of issues is needed, she better not fill up that space with some non-answer.

Also this “Combative Conservative” thing we are hearing about, according to Pollsters, reason Obama picked up few percentage points is because of MODERATES getting behind him. According to pundits, Obama agreeing with McCain was his biggest mitakes. According to voters, that’s one thing they liked.

If Sarah sounds too confrontational without much depth, women would abandon her in droves.

Idiots are running McCain’s campaign.

16 posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2008 5:39:05 PM by The_Republican (Conservatives are in trouble because they hate Scarlett Johanson.)
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McCain has now slipped badly in Pennsylvania where he once had a chance. People are scared about the economy. Imagine how much stronger McCain would be if Romney were his V.P. candidate. Romney knows more about the economy, business growth, taxes, etc. than Obama, Biden, and McCain put together. He could debate Biden with ease and attack Obama at the same time. He proved over and over during the primary debates that he’s a terrific debater. Sure, he’s a rather boring choice, but at least he sounds competent. Palin, on the other hand, makes Dan Quayle look like a genius. McCain is losing this election and his Palin selection stunt is putting the nail in his coffin. It was a smart decision for all of two weeks. Now, it just looks like McCain threw the Hail Mary pass and nobody was in the end zone to catch it. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

18 posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2008 5:41:06 PM by WestSylvanian
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2095359/posts

Anyways, it goes on and on....the majority of the posts reflect the sense that at this point she's a liability, not an asset. And they were all so high as a kite over her just a few weeks ago.

:rofl:
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 01:00 AM
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1. doesn't sound like they are too confident about tomorrow!!
I still don't understand why they would support someone as ditzy as her for even 2 weeks. They were hiding her from day one under the "unfair media" crap! Those people are nuts! Even after they slam bush they still support this ticket.

hahaha.....Obama did well because of the moderators? HUH! They are delusional!
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 01:11 AM
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8. Because she was so much more interesting than McCain.
And being new, they were able to project their own ideas of the perfect candidate on her. Too bad she had to open her mouth and spoil their illusions. ;)

Now she's just a screechy ditz who makes them wince. Makes Mittens look good? Ha!

And her running mate is an increasingly grumpy, testy old man. McCain turned out to be well past his sell-by date. Ha-ha! Maybe they wish they had Rudy now? Or Huckabee? Too late.

This is the swan song of the Republican party--enjoy every minute. It's over for them for many years to come.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 01:01 AM
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2. interesting that none of those posters are oldtimers over there
....but here's the most reassuring post of all from that thread:

"Frankly I think the only hope the Republican Party may have is to lose this election, restructure ourselves for 2012. If Palin is the only hope for conservatives in this country, then something is very, very wrong. I agree with Krauthammer on this, conservatism = competence, and competence is clearly missing from these interviews. We can blame the media all we want, but she should've done better. I'm still praying she proves me wrong tomorrow night.

39 posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2008 7:10:04 PM by charles m"
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 01:01 AM
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3. Dee-lightful! You know when your own side is calling you "McClame", you're gonna lose
I love that even the rightiest of the right are admitting in daylight that Sarah Barracuda is more like Sarah Guppy.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 01:03 AM
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4. Like palin had anything to do with the alaska pipeline.
Shove the alaska pipeline up her rubber girdled ass.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 01:06 AM
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5. You missed the best one!
"Sure, he’s a rather boring choice, but at least he sounds competent. Palin, on the other hand, makes Dan Quayle look like a genius. McCain is losing this election and his Palin selection stunt is putting the nail in his coffin. It was a smart decision for all of two weeks. Now, it just looks like McCain threw the Hail Mary pass and nobody was in the end zone to catch it. Dumb, dumb, dumb."

18 posted on Thursday, 2 October 2008 10:11:06 AM by WestSylvanian

That posts makes so much sense I don't even think a real Freeper wrote it. Probably a troll....
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 01:17 AM
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12. another good one:
Edited on Thu Oct-02-08 01:18 AM by Liberal_in_LA
Quote: McCain probably threw this election when he allowed himself to be talked into Sarah Palin as a running mate.

She is not ready for the Vice Presidency, much less the Presidency. Anybody who argues otherwise is either naive or is being disingenuous.

I am furious at McCain. This is beyond depressing.

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beltanefauve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 02:56 AM
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18. Yep, most likely a troll
Everything is spelled correctly!:rofl:
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 01:06 AM
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6. I've seen people here fret that somehow she's going to pull it off tomorrow night
And I'll admit that every so often I'm one of them--what if she manages to put coherent, intelligent sentences together and doesn't have any deer-in-the-headlights moments? Could the talking heads start to wonder whether they misjudged her?

Nah.

Like the person above wrote, "If she was 'that' amazing, would she be shielded like she has been?"

You can't turn someone from Dan Quayle into Bill Clinton in a couple of weeks.

Tomorrow night will be just fine. :)
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 01:24 PM
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25. She's not going to drool on herself but even in the limited format of this debate
She needs to prove she can answer questions as they are asked.

Attempts to be folksy or snarky may work with her base. However, in light of her recent incompetence if she can't prove she has a handle on the issues then she's done as far as moderates/independents are concerned.

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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 01:06 AM
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7. Here's another funny one!!!
"She’s on record as opposing the Supreme Court’s ruling on punitive damages in the Exxon Valdez case. Why didn’t she just mention that? Update: Karl e-mails, “Biden’s a senior member of the Judiciary Committee. Try asking him about the Alaskan pipeline and see how he does.”


She doesn't mention the Exxon Valdez case but they want somebody to ask Biden about the Alaskan pipeline????



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Greg K Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 01:14 AM
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10. The funny thing is, Biden could undoutably give a good answer. nt
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 01:30 AM
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13. no doubt! n/t
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 01:13 AM
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9. But...but...BUT SHE CAN FIELD-DRESS A MOOOOOSE!!!!!!!
:rofl:

It is this, it is this that convinced me to vote McCain!
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 01:14 AM
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11. lol. thanks for posting this.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 01:39 AM
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14. Its really stupid that they always carry on about experience
but many or most could care less if their candidate is even remotely competent.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 01:40 AM
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15. Okay, something that has been conveniently overlooked by the media and everyone worried about this
Edited on Thu Oct-02-08 01:42 AM by Parker CA
debate, is that the Moose's history of debates that are receiving all of this praise and gushing admiration were conducted on a stage so far from that on which she will be performing tomorrow night that the speculation that she will be a formidable opponent has no reasonable basis.

The commentary as it exists is akin to saying that if the local high school basketball team can defeat all of their opponents within the district, that they could realistically enter into a game against the Celtics at the Garden in Boston after only a few months of intensive practice and conditioning. The notion is absurd. Those debates literally have Palin sitting around a large dinner table with other potential candidates in an Alaskan gubernatorial race. Not to discount all AK politicians, but the point is that the stage is so far removed and so isolated from the national stage in the lower 48 let along the stage for the VPOTUS that the comparison is laughable. The physical audience in the room is tiny compared to what the Moose will face tomorrow. The friendly AK way of speaking and her snide and undercutting way of commenting will not play well on the large national stage to the majority of viewers.

She did well in the convention because she was reading directly off of a rolling script, a diatribe produced by handlers. People responded only to her character's ability to act. She exhibited zero true definable substance. Tomorrow, she is, for better or worse, unplugged. She can cram, cram, cram all she can for this exam of her life, but the reality at the end of the day before she walks onto that stage is that she is woefully unprepared.

Her tactic to attack Obama might have been a good one had been allowed to avail herself to the press and to more than three very controlled interviews. Even though the Couric episode was an epic failure, she was in a controlled environment and had only to answer to Couric. She has no credibility when she attempts to go it alone. Her attacks will seem baseless and contrived.

Her single biggest issue though, is that before an election has even taken place, before she has had a chance to even achieve a position in office long enough to provide adequate fodder and demonstration of her true character, she has become the butt of endless comedic mockery, satire, and humiliation on nationally televised programs. She has her fan base, but the majority of the public will not, repeat, will not support a candidate that is literally a joke. Will not.

Tomorrow will be a blip on the radar regardless of the outcome. The vote on the bailout/rescue bill will come quickly on the heels of this debate, completely overshadowing the previous night's episode much like Obama's speech was swept under the rug by the hate fest. The pukes, the handlers, the Liar, and the Moose will all be left further back in the polls, more demoralized, and with a direct view of only the backs of their opponents and the democratic party continually distancing themselves for the next four weeks.





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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 01:44 AM
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16. Listened to her being interviewed by Hugh Hewitt today. She came across
as folksy and uneducated. I don't think it will go over well on the national stage. Not when people have already begun to dismiss her due to those disasterous interviews with Couric
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 01:11 PM
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23. I wish you had made this an OP
I have been saying the same thing here for several days, although not as eloquently as you.

The analogy of the high school basketball team is spot on.

And just to add: what is all of this mockery and second-guessing from Republican stalwarts doing to her nerves. I would be a freaking wreck.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 02:07 AM
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17. I'm wondering if the only folks left in Freeperville are DUer's in drag...
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 02:59 AM
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19. One of those cats is a DUer. Now, why do they keep wishing for Romney?! It's too late.
Gidget is all theirs.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 11:05 AM
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20. a du'r? really?
:rofl:
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 01:07 PM
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21. I find this pretty astounding....
Once awhile I go over there to read their delusional drivel.

I don't think this bodes well for Palin.

I truly believe that Free Republic is a mouthpiece for the Repub party, meaning I think that they only allow posts that are allowed by the Rovian playbook.

The fact that they are saying these negative things about Palin, I think might mean that there is some serious consideration about dumping her from the ticket.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 01:11 PM
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22. IT'S A TRAP!!!!
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 01:13 PM
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24. I have predicted that by Monday she will be off the ticket.
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 02:00 PM
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26. Every time
I read their drivel, I am amazed that they are able to feed themselves. Those people live in a parallel universe.
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