FDR's New Deal turned the depression into The Great Depression...

[Puzzler]

... according to Glenn Beck this evening. Glad he set me straight on that minor detail ;)


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[steve2470]

1. noted Great Depression scholar Glenn Beck so sayeth, it must be true...

:sarcasm:

[Juche]

2. Wow

I really respect that, I think he got his PhD in economics from MIT.

[Dr.Phool]

3. Well, it wasn't a great depression, but it was better.

Anybody who watches Glenn Beck would believe this shit.

[JeffR]

4. Every time I hear Beck, I go into a Great Depression.

Obviously, he's an expert on the topic.

[PBS Poll-435]

16. Don't forget what this asshat did on November 3rd, 2004.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWgaOv4bUVg

He played the "We're in Heaven" clip with a evil voice laughing in the background laughing at Kerry voters.

It still makes me want to vomit.

[JeffR]

17. Me too. Mercifully, our cable provider axed CNN Headline News.

We used to watch the tool for a guaranteed laugh or 12, but these days my tolerance level for such things has nosedived and I would have destroyed every TV in the house by now if we could still tune him in.

[PBS Poll-435]

20. A rational approach!

:D

Seriously, Glenn Beck is doing the try-outs for Wheel of Fortune when Pat decides to "retire."

But that one day will haunt me forever. How, in the hell, do you insult 48%(and most probably more) of the American people for casting their Constitutionally guaranteed right to vote?

[JeffR]

22. Beck's excuse is that he's a reformed alcoholic.

In truth, he was an idiot who used to drink too much and now he's an idiot who doesn't drink. Other than the drinking, nothing much has changed.

[PBS Poll-435]

23. Bush is a "reformed alcoholic."

Same cloth...

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

5. Glenn Beck "couldn't pour piss out of a boot

if the instructions were written on the heel." Don't remember who LBJ said that about, but it's just as true here.

[msallied]

28. I adore that saying. Hadn't heard it in years. Thanks for bringing it back.

:hi:

[sakabatou]

6. Glen Beck FAILs at history.

[Bicoastal]

7. Yes, and the New Deal was such a miserable failure that FDR was kicked out after only one term.

Um...right?

[WindRiverMan]

8. Glenn Beck is pure fucking evil!

You can see it in his face with his wicked little smile. His heart is black. He's the kind of guy you have to keep your eye on all the time and never turn your back. A back biting wicked little beast he is.

[Golden Raisin]

12. And the corporate main stream media

has seen fit to ensure that Beck hosts both a national radio show and a TV show.

[napoleon_in_rags]

9. FDR's New Deal turned the Bolshevik revolution part II into America as a superpower.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

10. My parents were kids then

Believe me it wasn't so great.

[rufus dog]

11. I had an idiot neighbor try this shit on me on Monday

He had heard it on "some radio show"

He is a complete fool. They came over for a party during the summer and he saw my Obama hat and immediately went off on the "Hussein" tact.

The funny part is, he is well on his way to losing his house, a complete fucking moron who pulled out about half a million in second mortgages. I am sure this is some how the Democrats problem. Hate to be cold, but I won't miss him.

(I do feel sorry for his wife and kid though.)

[DefenseLawyer]

13. A high school diploma and a radio voice.

Thanks for your insight genius.

[GrizzlyMan]

14. It's sad that for many, FDR's greatness has faded over time

As we all know, this a man who led this country through an economic mushroom cloud and a two front war. A real war I might add. One that our enemies were fully capable of destroying us. Not a phony war on terror or a disaster like Vietnam.

Basically to Joe Sixpack FDR has been reduced to "the guy who created all those god damn welfare checks".

[onager]

29. Trashing FDR is another long-term right-wing project

Been a cottage industry of the right-wing publishers for several years now.

They've always hated the New Deal because it actually helped poor people. But along with attacks on his economic policies, for years the Right has been desperately trying to smear FDR's record in World War II.

They really hate it that a liberal and class-traitor did so much to win the war. And of course, people like Prescott Bush hated losing their business partners. :-)

One of the worst of this bunch is the historian Thomas Fleming. In the next issue of Military History Quarterly, Fleming has an article about FDR's policy of unconditonal surrender, and how it prolonged the war, tied the hands of America's allies, etc. etc.

Fleming already wrote a massive book on exactly that subject several years ago, The New Dealers' War: FDR and the War Within World War II. I read it and had to keep myself from throwing it across the room several times.

FDR made the reasons for that policy clear and they made sense. World War I ended in an armistice, not a surrender. This allowed the Germans to claim they had never surrendered, but had been "stabbed in the back," etc.

FDR was not about to repeat that mistake. After WWII, he was determined that the losers would admit defeat and make it a matter of the historical record, according to international law.

That policy also allowed the Allies to stay allied. The great nightmare for much of the war was Stalin signing a separate peace agreement with Hitler, taking the Red Army out of the war. (History Geeks will remember Stalin had already done exactly that in 1939, with the Soviet-German Non-Aggression Pact that neatly gave Stalin half of Poland.)

[rufus dog]

31. And a must see monument in DC

IMO the best.

[WCGreen]

15. I watched that crap for a minute...

He still thinks the New Deal almost destroyed the country...

Jesus why this ass hat has a show and I don't...

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

19. If it wasn't for the new deal

America would have turned communist or fascist, totalatarian either way. Roosevelt saved capitalism.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

24. Really!

And you should have a show!

[Ichingcarpenter]

25. Fascism....... that is what we are fighting

if you have any doubts now...... you are stupid.

[BrklynLiberal]

18. What is it about the repuke agenda that attracts these lowlifes..like a

piece of sugar attracts ants?

They all just flock to the trough and rub their noses in the crap, and then try to spout it out all over the place.

[anonymous171]

21. That's what RWers believe. They hate the New Deal.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

35. That's right

They were hoping America would become a Fascist dictatorship. Roosevelt saved capitalism.

[budkin]

26. Another "born again" holier than thou loon... and utter hypocrite

[msallied]

27. As a former poly sci professor explained it:

The New Deal is what ultimately forged the main partisan split between Democrats and Republicans. Before that, there wasn't NEARLY as much partisan rancor in Washington. After that, though... well, the Republicans were forced into their caves to formulate a plan to take the country back. They started courting the southern religious conservatives, and the rest has pretty much been an expansion on that.

[Ichingcarpenter]

30. Wilson and the Republicans sold out the progressives

It was pretty ugly after Teddy lost

Wilson brought in the Federal Reserve with corporate banking powers
that Roosevelt and Kennedy tried to change later

[onager]

32. But many southern religious conservatives loved FDR

Most of my relatives are southern religious conservatives. I grew up in the rural South, hearing my older relatives talk about the horrors of the Depression. To sum up their opinions: before FDR they had nothing, after FDR at least they had hope things would get better.

In that place and time, many families (both black and white) had a photo of FDR hanging in their homes. Usually right near a painting of Jesus H. Christ Himself.

That wasn't empty symbolism, either. Anybody denigrating FDR in that place and time could probably expect a serious ass-whooping.

I hate to disagree with a professor, since I still have a large component of Ignorant White Trashery in my make-up. But I think the real split with the Southern Democrats came with LBJ in the 1960's.

e.g., I grew up in South Carolina. When LBJ was pushing the Civil Rights Act in 1964, the loathsome Sen. Strom Thurmond switched parties and joined the GOP. If you look in the archives, most pundits predicted Thurmond had just ended his career. If only...

James Baldwin wrote a great article once about LBJ. Baldwin said LBJ would always be remembered for Vietnam, but he would also go down in history as the president who did the most to help the helpless--the poor, the aged, the minorities.

Baldwin then noted that this was not a bad way to go down in history. (Today we could add: "unless you are a Republican asshat.")

[jobycom]

33. Someone should depress his tongue and then staple it to his lower lip.

That would be a Great Depression.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

34. WOW - history from another failed rock DJ

you can almost see beck in the hawaiian shirt with a mound of blow at 5AM, getting ready to do the zoo crew

[progressive_realist]

36. But 1932 was the worst year of the Depression...

And FDR didn't take office until March 1933.

:shrug: