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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:43 PM
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So who would even qualify as an "elder statesman" Republican these days, who'd have the stature to
be able to take McCain to the woodshed on his miserable, disgraceful rabble rousing tactics?

No one immediately comes to mind.

Certainly not Bush. The Republican Senate and House are sorely lacking in adult figures.

Who?
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Curtland1015 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:44 PM
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1. The CLOSEST you could get... Romney perhaps?
You're right. They don't really have much.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 10:26 PM
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25. McCain still hates Romney
He'd do the opposite of what Romney advised.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:44 PM
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2. My guess is the former President Bush
who seems to have slightly more class than his son.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:50 PM
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17. Seconded plus he's running the BFFE and is in the Trilateral Commission.
:rofl:
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 10:26 PM
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26. 1988 Race against Michael Dukakis
He has more brains than his son. Certainly not more class. He is also a student of the originator of this type of Politics. Richard M. Nixon.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:44 PM
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3. Chuck Hagel and John Warner.
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:56 PM
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18. Chuck Hagel would be my choice
But he's gone head to head with the Republican machine too much by saying Their War was bogus. McCain wouldn't listen to him - or anyone else at this point. Does Bob Dole have any credibility left?
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:44 PM
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4. John Warner
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:46 PM
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11. Good,
Historic.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:44 PM
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5. Elder Statesman Republican? A moderate, of course. Actually, that's easy.
Bill Clinton.
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:45 PM
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6. Chuck Hagel seems good.
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nancyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:45 PM
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7. John Warner?
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SDJay Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:45 PM
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8. Secret Service and perhaps even
Homeland Security... on the down-low, of course. If this had led to the worst nightmare scenario, there would've been serious civil unrest. This was as much a law enforcement issue as it was a political one.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:45 PM
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9. Only James Baker; the Fixer
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:47 PM
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13. What, is he like the White Wolf or something? "Er. I shot my dignity in the face."
"It's brains are all over my car. I have only 3 weeks to clean it up."
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 10:27 PM
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28. Baker loves this type of shit
Him and Atwater had a ball doing it to Dukakis in 1988.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:46 PM
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10. Former Secretary of State under Bush sr. Baker?
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 10:25 PM
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24. See 1988 Dukakis: Lee Atwater
and Baker were students of Nixon they made this type of politics and artform.
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:47 PM
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12. John Warner
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:48 PM
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14. John Warner and Dick Lugar
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 10:30 PM
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33. Those are better than my choices. Shoulda read the whole thread. n/t
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:49 PM
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15. A Military man Peterus.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:50 PM
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16. Contributors...
Edited on Fri Oct-10-08 09:54 PM by EC
I think the Annenburgs got ahold of him and other Chicago big-wig Repubs...
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WindRiverMan Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:58 PM
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19. Ah, hell, they'll just pull Reagan out of his coffin
slap a little liptsick on his corpse(Palin's new job), and call it good.
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 10:02 PM
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20. Maybe a few fellow senators might have
Edited on Fri Oct-10-08 10:04 PM by junofeb
had a little talk about censure, especially since Obama and Biden are both in the senate as well. McCain has to work with these guys for a couple of more years if he returns to the senate after this run (which I doubt, I think he'll retire due to his health or to be with his creepy family or something) and he is truly damaging his reputation with his peers.

On edit: Frankly, I choose ALL OF THE ABOVE. He's screwing the pooch left and right.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 10:04 PM
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21. I agree -- no one springs quickly to mind.
John Danforth might have been the heart and mind of the GOP but they tossed him overboard in the Fundie Revolution.

He's essentially a conservative Christian Republican from Missouri, thought at one point to be Dubya's logical running mate, until Dick Cheney decided that he, Cheney, would be the running mate.

Danforth is likely too conservative for us but he is dramatically too moral for Cheney, and to forward-looking for the mouth-breathing cretins who form the Far Right of the current GOP.

Dick Luger, who spends 2/3rds of every day in a coma, might be the closest they've got to a seasoned adult. On down the roster, the pickins git mighty thin.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 10:21 PM
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22. Former Missouri Senator Rev. John Danforth
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 10:24 PM
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23. James Baker, Henry Kissinger, Bush I, Bob Dole
Who were all nasty fucks in their own right so they aren't going to tell him to stop.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 10:27 PM
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27. Pappy.....
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sunnybrook Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 10:28 PM
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29. We are talking about the Republican Party
Elder statesmen on this issue? Trent Lott? :rofl:
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 10:29 PM
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30. Bush Sr or Howard Baker are the first two that leap to my mind
maybe James (no relation) Baker. There's nothing in the Senate, that's for sure. We have Robert Byrd and Ted K as our elder statesmen. The 'pigs have no one remotely comparable.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 10:29 PM
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31. The Gop is sadly lacking these days in "elder statesmen"
and I doubt McCrap listens to anyone but himself.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 10:30 PM
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32. Hagel or Warner
That's all I can think of.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 10:30 PM
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34. Alan Simpson, former senator from Wyoming, is just the guy to do it
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RichardRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 10:43 PM
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38. Simpson mosied on over to the McCain
spread and allowed as how he was pushing it a bit and he might want to rein in his rhetoric just a tad.
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 10:31 PM
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35. No one has THAT much control within the Republican party now
and that is the problem. Only public pressure can bring about "change" (sorry) within that party. They have to start losing seats and power and then the party will self-correct. It will take a long time.

Sam
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 10:33 PM
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36. Richard Lugar
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 10:36 PM
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37. Nancy Reagan
She knows McCain's soul, and McCain knows she knows his soul, and McCain has been talking Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie. Nancy could make a fool of him by saying that he is a disgrace to Ronnie.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:42 PM
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39. Nancy Reagan hates him
because she was friends with his first wife...
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