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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 03:08 PM
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Sarah Palin's voice is in the tank for Obama
I swear. Her screeching, henpecking style of oratory is enough to send me looking for an icepick to knock out my own eardrums.

Her voice patterns helped give Obama at least 1 point of his 10 point bump.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 03:10 PM
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1. I could not agree more. It is like nails on a chalkboard.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 03:10 PM
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2. The debate.
I had the worst headache after hearing this woman for an hour and a half, and I would have paid good money for an icepick in each hand to embed in my temples.
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holiday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 03:10 PM
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3. Can you imagine being married to her?
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 03:12 PM
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4. There are few people in this world I have hatred for but she is one of them. nt
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Pyrzqxgl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 03:14 PM
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5. Why do people always complain about women they disagree with by criticizing their voice?
I'm seeing some of the same guys, using the same lines about Palin's voice that they did about Hilary.
Women usually have higher voices than men. So What? It's a person's ideas that matter, not their voice.

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 03:16 PM
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7. A high timbre or tone is one thing. Metallic screeching is another.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 03:17 PM
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8. I disagree with her AND I dislike her voice.
Edited on Mon Oct-13-08 03:18 PM by Left Is Write
The two aren't mutually exclusive.

W's voice gets on my nerves too, and I've said that many times in the past. I can't listen to him.

ETA: When you dislike someone who has an irritating voice, the dislike seems to amplify the irritation factor of the voice. Likewise, if you are fond of someone who has an irritating voice, the fondness seems to mitigate the irritation factor of the voice. Palin's voice is all the more grating to some of us because of that.
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wolverinez Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 03:21 PM
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10. Many women have screechy voices, many men are selfish power freaks
Just how it is. No reason to be offended.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 03:25 PM
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14. I'm a woman who can't stand Palin's voice. It's her tone that I hate.
She has a nasty, insinuating, lying, backstabbing timbre to her voice that just grates. I feel the exact same way about chimpy's voice, for the exact same reason.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 03:59 PM
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19. It hink this is out of context
I don't agree with Kay Hutchinson and her voice doesn't bother me. I disagreed with Margaret Thatcher and her voice didn't bother me. I don't agree with Olympia Snowe much but her voice doesn't bother me in the least.

Palin however pains me to the point that I know exactly what Chekhov and Captain Terrell went through when Khan but the grubs in their ears.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 04:00 PM
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21. lolol. good analogy. there are women with horrible ideologies
who don't sound like crashing silverware.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 04:03 PM
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22. ROFL !!! - Thank You For That !!!
:rofl::yourock::rofl:

:hi:
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concerned canadian Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 04:09 PM
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25. i'm a woman and have heard numerous women speak in my almost 60 years

And I can say that SOME women have screeching, 'nails on the chalkboard' voices while others do not.

It's not a question of women having higher voices; listen to Michelle Obama, Barbara Boxer, and even

Nancy Pelosi (tho many here don't like her personally, her voice is not irritating, at least not to my ears)

and other well known women who are often public speakers like Susan Sarandon, Annie Lennox, Rachel Maddow, Coretta Scott

King...

As for Hillary Clinton (whose voice I also found grating during most to the primaries) modulated her speeches more

after a lot of public criticism, but even HC's voice is, in retrospect, musical in comparison to Palin's, imo.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 03:15 PM
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6. I just remembered this article about her body language and voice...

<snip>
Voice-Flag #2: The Metallic Shriek Of The Fear-Monger

To emphasize certain points, Sarah Palin takes her voice up the tone scale to a metallic shriek. This tone will be familiar to many of us: it's the voice your mother employed as a last resort to get you out of bed when you were a teenager. It's designed to scare you, to rake fingernails across your inner chalkboard. She often uses this voice when she first takes the stage at a rally. It works quite well there, because it cuts like a knife and jolts any of the faithful who might be dozing to sit up in their seats. We hope Americans are not so sleepy as to vote in favor of hearing this tone of voice for four years.
<snip>


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kathlyn-and-gay-hendricks/body-politics-sarah-palin_b_132785.html

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VeraAgnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 03:20 PM
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9. Star Trek episode with wife Stella Palin Mudd of "Harcourt Fenton Mudd"
Edited on Mon Oct-13-08 03:35 PM by VeraAgnes




http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/library/character/bio/1071405.html

Mudd's wife.........well, must be a future relative of palin.

Here is another link.....http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/I,_Mudd_(episode)

"That's very interesting– you leave your wife, but then bring her along."
"I had the androids construct an exact replica of Stella, so that I could gaze upon her... and rejoice in her absence. Gentlemen – attend: (clears his throat) Stella, dear."
(mechanically at first)

"Har-court! Harcourt Fenton Mudd! Where have you been? What have you been up to? Nothing good, I'm sure – well, let me tell you, you lazy, good-for-nothing–"
"Shut up!"


(winding down) "– thing, thing, thing..."
(laughs) "Marvelous! I finally have the last word with her... and with you."

- McCoy, Mudd, and "Stella"




"Har-court! Harcourt Fenton Mudd! Where have you been? What have you been up to? Nothing good, I'm sure – well, let me tell you, you lazy, good-for-nothing–"
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 03:23 PM
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11. I think this is a male reaction as happened with HRC
When HRC held up those flyers and shouted "Meet me in Ohio," I felt as if Ma had found my Playboy magazines under the mattress.

IF YOU DON'T STOP IT YOU'LL GO BLIND
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 03:25 PM
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13. yup. lots of independents who are male
that is my point. Despite the crazy notion some guys have that she is cute or pretty or whatever. Her voice stops them cold. Shallow? Yes. But her voice is a lethal weapon for Obama's campaign.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 03:34 PM
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16. Like an ex, starting a fight when you come pick up the kids... dragging THEM into needless drama NT
serious buzz killer
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crossroads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 03:24 PM
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12. Sounds like fingernails on a blackboard! Will be glad when I don't have to hear it anymore!
Come on Nov. 4 so we can send this shrill shrew back to Alaska!
CR
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 03:27 PM
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15. I want her to go down in ignominy. Flaming wreckage
I want completely unqualified partisan idealogues to think twice before entering the gladiator's arena.

May invesigations, recalls, and People magazine "Where are they now" issues haunt her for years.
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alwysdrunk Donating Member (908 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 03:45 PM
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17. At LEAST one point
Seriously the most annoying voice of any public figure EVER. And it has nothing to do with being a woman. Anyone remember Paul Tsongas?
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 03:50 PM
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18. Even John McCain's voice sounds whimpy and whiney
of course, both Biden's and Obama's sound like STRONG ORATORS who can LEAD.

In 2000, Gore had his problems in how he came off sounding. But so did Bush. We'll call it a tie.

Hey, WAIT! It was!!

So maybe we should be polling people about whose voice they like the best as a good correlation to winning..ah nah...I've taken this screech about as far as I can.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 04:00 PM
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20. Kramer : Mary Hart
rucky : Palin
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 04:04 PM
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23. A voice as annoying as hers is worth at least 3.75 points for the opposition in any poll out there
I ran across a couple McCain supporters this weekend and even they can't believe how annoying she is.

K&R
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 04:07 PM
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24. I hate her condescending smirky twang she tries pulling. Like a valley girl from hell
it is awful. the whole "I'm confused" constant tempo of her oratory is sooo fucking annoying and patronizing. She embodies the WORST in what people should want to be.
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