Who's watching David Frum be a jerk to Rachel Maddow?

[ErinBerin84]

I had to turn it off (I'll watch the rest of it on the rerun), but the interview started off really weird, with him accusing her of wasting the last 40 minutes with having a sarcastic tone. Rachel asked if he was equating her sarcasm and playfulness with calling Obama a terrorist, and he dismissed the question and said in a dickhead way "Well, that's not an excuse for your own failings..", or something like that...


I've seen the McCain spokeperson on Rachel Maddow, and Pat Buchanan, be more respectful toward her on her own program...what a dick. How does he get off criticizing her show, I bet this is the first time he's even seen any of it. She does have substantive discussion on policy (criticizing both Dems and Repubs)...he just really pissed me off, I had to turn it off before I broke my tv.

[dchill]

1. ME!

[navarth]

2. I'm watching it...

and this pig has the NERVE to harass Rachel about having more 'grown-up' rhetoric.

This from the asshole that coined the term 'axis of evil'.

This is one of those times I'm ready to reach into the TV and grab this smarmy fuck by the throat.

[thunder rising]

10. Let me know when his head comes off his shoulders...Rachel is able to take care of herself.

[me b zola]

34. And she did, quite well

She politely smacked him down on every idiotic point that he attempted to make.

[navarth]

38. I repeat...he coined the term 'Axis Of Evil'...

and he argues for more 'grown up' discourse.

Fucking hypocritical, arrogant, self-serving PUNK.

[arewenotdemo]

74. You want to REALLY despise the neocon POS?

Watch this debate with George Galloway.

Frum maintains his revolting smugness even as Galloway eviscerates him!

http://www.ronpaulwarroom.com/?p=986

[cliffordu]

3. Me. What a complete fucking idiot.

[Not a robought]

4. David Frum is an insecure child n/t

[Kookaburra]

5. Can't watch it.

Has she put him in his place yet?

[ocean girl]

6. She's handling him very well

Not letting him squirm off the hook for his comments.

[NEDem]

7. has anyone ever seen frum NOT be a jerk?

[firedupdem]

8. I turned it off as soon as that jerk came on. What is his freaking problem? n/t

[mwb970]

69. Me too. I lasted about a minute.

Jerks like Frum are simply not worth my time.

[AFSCME girl]

9. Isn't he a complete jerk?!!

I want to slap him silly. Did you hear what he said about the quote from Gandi? What an asshat! :mad: :mad:

[AllieB]

11. He is a fucking ASSHOLE.

[Lex]

12. She is handling him well.

He's from the Dark Side.

[Roland99]

13. HOLY CRAP did Rachel just disembowel that creep at the end or what?!??

WOO HOO!

[Left Is Write]

14. I was going to watch the later showing, but maybe I won't bother.

[me b zola]

39. No, you should watch

Rachel politely handed him his ass and made him look like a whiny loser baby.

[Mira]

51. Don't miss it. A rare piece of TV and Rachel is on top and

even though blindsided she folded him over elegantly and kicked his butt.

[KathieG]

15. Me...that guy is an asshole!

:mad:

[MamaDem]

16. Yep - I'm laughing that he's calling for a more intelligent discourse

So it's like elitism, right, such a bastard. What a comlete and total asshole!!!!!! Rachel looked like she was ready to bitchslap his smug ass - bastard!!!

[Tatiana]

17. He came off looking like a HUGE ASSHOLE. n/t

[billyoc]

18. She smacked his ass up good.

tool

[Zuiderelle]

19. Wow, what an asshole he is. Desperately trying to make it seem that Rachel should be complicit

in all the bad that's going on. She's handling it amazingly well though. Go Rachel!

[Catshrink]

20. Rachel owned him.

Didn't let him get the last word in.... questioned his assertion that her humor was the same as McCain's supporters shouting "kill him."

I love Rachel!

[BrklynLiberal]

21. My guess is that Frum had no idea what he was going to be up against.

His condescending and "Superior" attitude toward Rachel made him look even more like the idiot that he has already been shown to be.

[geekgrrl]

28. I agree 100% -- and she was totally awesome and kicked his snarky ass! nt

[ocean girl]

31. That was fantastic - she shredded him

OMFG - I loved it - she was brilliant!

[CitizenPatriot]

46. condescending patriarchal asshat

I wanted to smack him - how dare he talk down in that daddy tone - scolding her? saying her show isn't smart?

um, dude? Rachel is brilliant. FUCK YOU!!!!!

Rachel is smarter than him by a looong shot.

Ewww, he stank the place up.

[BrklynLiberal]

59. That condescending patriarchal attitude is totally what repukism is all about...

especially the rw conservative fundy kind of repukism.

[CitizenPatriot]

62. And based on WHAT? when have they ever been right about jack shit?

He really pissed me off. How DARE these people after what they have done to this country??????? Axis of evil???? Project much?

:-) she set him straight.

:toast: :toast: :toast:

[Motown_Johnny]

22. I am.. what a bunch of shit... McCain didn't hear the guy yell "kill him" you can see McCain react

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xVFWahLTdUo


his ugly little grampa face gets a scowl on it for a second... he fucking heard it alright

[Lex]

41. There is no question (not even from McCain) that he heard it.

nt

[annabanana]

55. Yeah.. McCaint eyes popped, then he got that "i couldn't have heard that"

look on his face before he went on...

[Motown_Johnny]

57. Yep.. then he makes a statement about an "angry barrage of insults" WTF!!!

[StrongBad]

23. By the end of the exchange, she had completely, calmly, and rationally put down his argument.

At the end of the segment I said to myself, "Self, that is one brilliant woman".

[BrklynLiberal]

37. Frum is not even worthy of carrying her shoes..Her intelligence and analytic insight make him look

like a stammering three year old child.

[elkston]

24. That was a very tense moment, and she handled it firmly and professionaly.

Like Obama, Rachel doesn't do cowering.

[navarth]

25. kudos to Rachel for staying classy.

If it was me I'd not be so patient. This bastard belongs in jail as much as his neocon masters.

He's from Canada! That kills me. I always love everything from Canada. He ruins it.

[bunkerbuster1]

80. He's from Canada?

I know next to nothing about this guy, but if there's a "Deport Frum" movement out there, I might give it some funding.

[navarth]

88. Yeah, he's Canadian, and I don't blame them for sending him here.

I guess they figure we won't notice one more pig.

[goclark]

84. She would make an excellent Press Secretary for Obama

[Madam Mossfern]

26. She took it right from him

and ripped him a new one...especially at the end. I'm glad I watched that.

[lisa58]

27. Rachel is the best - she soooo handled him - I think Keith may have a special comment about this

[bermudat]

29. Just finished listening to that pr*ck.

She handled him with grace, though.

[AFSCME girl]

30. OMG...my blood pressure

just dropped 100 pts. since that segment ended. I should have turned it off. What a jerk!!!!

[ErinBerin84]

32. I'll watch the rest of it later on the rerun

From what I saw, Rachel handled it EXTREMELY well...it was ME who couldn't deal :)

Yeah, he obviously has no idea who she is...lots of Republicans on MSNBC respect Rachel because she IS able to discuss these issues without partisan combativeness and is extremely well researched. Any RW ass would have cut the person's mike. Good job, Rachel. You make me proud.

[MarjorieG]

33. Frum sees the PNAC world view not the same sell, still blaming Dems for not seeing the threats

[blogslut]

35. He was attempting to distance himself from his criticisms of his own party

One of the most passive-aggressive li' hissy fits I've seen in the last two years.

[geekgrrl]

36. What a freakin' lousy sore looser Frum is-- that's what it comes down to. He said

Obama was most likely going to win.

[Neecy]

40. He'll be a hero to the RW

They hate MSNBC and especially Keith and Rachel - I'm sure he did it to get some plaudits from the mouth breathers.

What a joke, though, to criticize Rachel for 'not being serious' when Fox "News" has been a complete joke from its inception.

[Lex]

42. Exactly. Pigboy and Faux News are jokes but Rachel's not serious.

[bunkerbuster1]

81. A better comparison would be MSNBC to the horrid National Review Online...

...with which Frum is affiliated. They never fail to take cheap shots and are more than happy to be "unserious" when it suits them.

[CADEMOCRAT7]

43. He was angry and mean. This is pretty much the impression of the GOP.

[Tatiana]

44. Hold up - Did Rachel just get CUT OFF?

Her ending commentary seemed to abruptly end...

[blogslut]

48. KO ran two minutes over

So, Rachel got the short stick. Gotta play them commercials on time. :)

[Tatiana]

49. Oh OK - thanks! n/t

[brer cat]

50. I think it was because Keith ran a little bit over. n/t

[A-Schwarzenegger]

45. A One-Man Axis of Jerk-Off.

[ProSense]

47. She turned that smug bastard into a

whining zero. After years of supporting the idiot Bush, he wants to have a grown-up discussion. Screw you assholes.

[AndyA]

52. We don't like it when our Rachel has to stoop down into the mud with the GOP tools

But she does it with class and respect every time, and they just don't seem to understand that.

Good for Rachel! Great show!!

[SOS]

53. A pseudo-intellectual wants to raise the level of discourse

Funny stuff.
After years of swiftboats and Fox "News" lunacy, this prick comes on Rachel's show and demands a more serious tone?
The combination of stupidity and arrogance is a Republican staple. It's never easy to watch.
Too bad he wasn't wearing a John Kerry purple heart band-aid to make his point more ludicrous.

(Actually he was just pissed about the Wolfowitz comb-licking video.)

[MassLiberal]

54. what a crank

He had a Nixonian quality about him. Grumpy and uptight.

[bunkerbuster1]

56. What a dick.

What a humorless, clueless, rotten little man.

[GOTV]

58. Will there be video anywhere?

[Lex]

60. Maybe on her show's site later?

Her show replays again at 11pm EST on MSNBC.

[GOTV]

61. actually I found it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH4LovZeowo

[budkin]

63. Frum is just adjusting to being irrelevant

[Turn CO Blue]

64. Rachel is as classy as can be. Frum is an arrogant tool!

Smug David Frum is definitely overdue for some kind of enema or something.

[SpookyCat]

65. Just watched it late on my dvr....

OH! To have one fourth of Rachaels' poise and class! I just don't think I could have gotten through that without calling him a fucktard...and then to be so gracious at the end!

Smarmy little asswipe! Horrid little sycophantic troglodyte!

Ah! There...I feel better!

[ErinBerin84]

66. ok, I watched it in full.

Frum was even worse at the end, but Rachel handled him with skill. Tried to bring up the "liberals don't understand our global security threats"...nice try pulling that shit by Rachel, Frum. She made him look like the troll that he is.

[lamp_shade]

67. What was he thinking? That he'd spank her? Rachel? Did he NOT do his homework?

Did he not know who he was going up against? Did he think he would dazzle her? He thought he was going to beat her up, didn't he? Her comebacks were brilliant. She had the last word on each and every one of his snarky points. He won't be back.

[bunkerbuster1]

68. I wonder if Frum had ever really watched the show, or heard Rachel's radio show.

I'm thinking not. I think Frum imagined that what he had heard about Maddow from wingnuts might be true.

And if you're wondering, what Wingnut World thinks of Maddow is (based on the occasional bits I've overheard online) some nasty, heavy-handedly sarcastic, bull-dykey bully. I think he was expecting some kind of jokey cartoon-violence volley back in return, rather than the dead-serious line of inquiry Maddow gave him.

Maddow can be incredibly funny when it's appropriate. When the discussion is about a campaign that's gone off the rails due to scapegoating and threats of violence, there's absolutely nothing "ha-ha" funny to be mined.

[lamp_shade]

70. You took my thoughts and put them so clearly into words. Thanks you, bunkerbuster1.

:hi:

[olegramps]

71. Typical PNAC neo-con

David Frum is a typical PNAC neo-con who remains totally in denial that their nitwit policy of bringing pro-western democracy to the Middle East has been an unmitigated failure. A failure that has contributed heavily to the crisis that our Republic now faces. What has not been emphasized nearly enough is the fact that John McCain was, not only an adherent of these failed policies, but has surrounded himself with the same architects who are fully responsible for having place our country in serious jeopardy.

Personally I am sick of these damn think tanks that are nothing more than propaganda mills. On the right all I hear is anti-labor, demonization of progressives, accusations of un-patriotism and character assassination of even members of their own party when anyone dares to challenge their failed policies such as Richard Clarke for example.

[spanone]

72. he's one smarmy piece of shit

[DuaneBidoux]

73. Forgetting Frum for a moment I don't like what is happening at MSNBC right now.

Yes it is a pleasure to have someplace to go to listen to progressive ideas virtually the entire evening and it is obviously a response to Fox as so many people felt that coverage has been tilted too conservatively for years now.

But I don't think it is actually good for the national dialogue generally to have newspapers or television or radio stations that are "conservative" OR "liberal." I applaude especially Maddow for having the courage to have someone like Frum on and to not treat him rudely even if he does the same. I would like to see more guests on Matthew, Olbermann, Maddow who disagree with each other and debate in a civilized manner.

[high density]

76. MSNBC produces two hours of liberal discussion five days a week

Depending on the wind, Tweety might also be on our side. Other than that, MSNBC has the same crap that fills CNN and Fox News day after day.

I still see people (i.e. nuts) saying that Fox News is too liberal for their tastes. I don't think most people even know what liberal means at this point.

[bullwinkle428]

78. Matthews has plenty of right-wing tools on as guests of the show -

some days, he even does a great job tearing them to pieces. Check out his interview with Eric Cantor, the Congressman from Virginia, if you want see Matthews at his best...

[annabanana]

79. "left/right". pfft. I'm just so relieved to find some damn FACTS

on TV for the first time since Reagan...

[DuaneBidoux]

85. Facts are good. No argument there. I'm just saying that I could use more debate from guests...

generally. Tweety has traditionally been someone who often says things that I don't like (although that hasn't been the case lately as I think even he can't ignore the absolute insanity of the wingnuts right now).

I don't like when the entire show is nothing but single guests confirming the hosts opinion or analysis. I don't believe it does progressives any long term good to get into an echo chamber. It is a way to gradually lose touch with reality over time and anyone, regardless of politics. It is great to have a guest by him/herself too--I'm not saying otherwise. Just that I don't want the evening to become an echo chamber for progressives and I would like to see experts that are coming from other than a political perspective of either party.

[ErinBerin84]

87. uh, Rachel specifically has people on her show to disagree with her.

And she treats them in a much more respectful way than any of those other fake balance shows.

[bunkerbuster1]

82. Fair point, but take Maddow off that short list... she's always tried to host opposing views

in fact, it's been a regular bit to list the people who've been contacted from the RNC and elsewhere who "weren't able to make it". I think she wants them on, so long as they behave themselves. I think it's the right-wing that's too scared to make an appearance.

Anyway, I guess you're right--it's good that Frum was there, and I hope there are others, even if it makes for some tense moments.

[drdjpete]

75. She handled it well

She threw it right back in his face, asking him if what she did on her show was equivalent to righties calling for the death of Obama. He danced around that question like a rag doll.

[bunkerbuster1]

83. Welcome to DU!

Any friend of Maddow's is a friend of ours.

[renate]

86. welcome to DU!

:hi:

[Terran]

77. She owned his lame ass

Trotted out the "both sides are just as responsible for the nasty tone" meme and she tore him up and smiled while she did it. I love Rachel.