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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:24 AM
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Anyone else lost a little bit of respect for the voters of Alaska?
How could they have elected this person as governor? Didn't they vet her at all?

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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:26 AM
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1. If I Didn't Know Better,
I would swear that's a photoshop. Or else she has an extremely large head.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:27 AM
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3. I don't think it's a photoshop....
I just got it off google a couple of minutes ago.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:44 AM
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17. No, I'm Sure It's Real
It just looked...odd, and like the size and position of her head didn't quite fit.
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:45 AM
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19. Yeah, I think it is.
You know, the have photoshopped images on google, too.

Interesting website behind that image: http://4hillary.wordpress.com/
Some fake "PUMA" site dedicated to taking swipes Obama. Interestingly enough, they think Sarah's just mahvelous over there. It was enough to gag a maggot.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:54 AM
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23. That is definitely NOT HER BODY!!!
Edited on Tue Oct-14-08 02:14 AM by BrklynLiberal
The pictures were taken in December for release in January. She had a Baby in MARCH..

These were the pictures in the magazine...




You can see all the Vogue mag covers for 2008. None of them are the barracuda..
http://www.whosdatedwho.com/what/magazine_view.asp?ID=232
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 02:29 AM
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38. It's a photoshop ......
All these guys have to do is go to the link on the magazine cover where is says "TheKoKon.com" and that's the guy who photo-shopped it in Dec of 2007. He has it on his blog and he supports Obama ..... :thumbsup:

http://www.thekokon.com/

note: Once to his blog you have to toggle all the way down to his archives over to the right where it says 2007 ..... click on that ... toggle 3/4 of the way down the page for the story. Mystery solved. :)


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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 02:40 AM
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42. Thanks for confirming what I knew, but could not prove.
Edited on Tue Oct-14-08 02:53 AM by BrklynLiberal
:thumbsup:

I found the page where he originally posted the photoshop cover. The comments are very interesting..

Thanks for the link.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 02:45 AM
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43. No problem and here's a quicker link where all this ends up ......
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 02:54 AM
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45. Thanks. That is a great blog...
The comments on the page where the photoshop was were very interesting..
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:27 AM
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2. All the repug males wanna boink her.
Edited on Tue Oct-14-08 01:50 AM by bushwentawol
I'm sure her sexy image gave her a lot of votes.


edit: I just wanna see her sex tapes. :evilgrin:
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:29 AM
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4. She would never get elected governor of California
or any other important state.
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Azathoth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:32 AM
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6. Yup, California always chooses substance over style and celebrity when picking its governors
Oh wait...
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:34 AM
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7. I forgot about him...
:rofl:
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CampDem Donating Member (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 02:35 AM
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39. Important state?
We may not be the most populous, but we are important.

We have cultures here that go back thousands of years, hundreds of languages and music and traditions that may be extinct in a generation.

We have air so crisp, fresh and lovely scented that it takes your breath away as you struggle to inhale it on a winter morning.

We have colossal mountain ranges that layer and zigzag as far as your eye can see. Not a building in sight. Nothing but trees and lakes and rivers for hundreds of miles in every direction.

We have bears hunting, wolves in tight packs, eagles soaring.

We want and need Obama so don't exclude us or mock us. Thank you.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:31 AM
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5. Most of the government up there is a corrupt, good old boy network.
That's what happens when you're mostly wilderness and isolated from the rest of the country. lol You're sort of in your own little world up there, I think.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:36 AM
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10. You talk about us as if we're invisible.
HEY, I'M HERE. I can hear you....
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 03:31 PM
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59. It doesn't make me have any less respect for Alaskans
anymore than bush makes me have less respect for Americans.

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CampDem Donating Member (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:59 AM
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26. Yes the government is corrupt.
Alaska is much like other rural states, with Anchorage being more liberal. I don't think it has much to do with the wilderness and isolation. Many of the most liberal people I know are the closest to nature and are here for the hundreds of miles of open spaces, spectacular mountains, and untouched wildlife. Let's not broad brush Alaskans too much or other folks from rural states. We are trying to go blue this year!
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:35 AM
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8. It's ironic she got elected mainly because she took down a corrupt politician.
Seeing as how she's just as corrupt, or maybe even more so than that guy.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:35 AM
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9. And where might YOU be from that you don't have a profile?
Coming after Frank Murkowski, a very corrupt and extremely unpopular governor (#50 in the favorability rating), Sarah with her record of having challenged Republican party bigwigs such as former AG Gregg Renkes and Party chair Randy Ruedrich, and her promise of reform and open government, looked pretty good. The people of Wasilla were very close-mouthed about their mayor, so all these little weirdnesses about her reign out there weren't generally known. She looked good, she said the right things, she was friendly and approachable, and even as governor she worked well with the Democrats in the legislature, helping to pass some things that the Dems had wanted for years that the former governor had opposed.

The persona she has displayed on the national stage is nothing like the way she was here as governor. Maybe she's always been this way, but she was really keeping it under wraps. The firing of Walt Monegan was the first indication we had that something was amiss.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:44 AM
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18. So what if I don't have a profile?
I have a journal. ;)
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 02:14 AM
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32. Oh, well, okay, then.
:) I hope I answered your question about how the lovely Ms. Palin got elected. I am proud to say I did NOT vote for her.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 02:20 AM
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36. Yes. Your post was informative.
Edited on Tue Oct-14-08 02:20 AM by woolldog
Thank you.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:38 AM
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11. 'Scuse me, but we have Alaskan DUers here, and that Vogue is a photoshop seen before. nt
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:40 AM
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12. Thank you, Hekate.
You are always a class act. :hug:
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CampDem Donating Member (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 02:18 AM
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33. Yep
Classy
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:43 AM
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14. I'm going to assume that our Alaska DUers
didn't vote for Palin and so have no reason to be offended by my post.

Who cares if it's a photoshop (and I have no idea whether it is or not)?
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 02:57 AM
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46. Then maybe your post shouldn't have lumped all "voters of Alaska" as one
I've lost no more respect for some plurality of Alaskans than I have for the American population, in general, for allowing Bush to get sworn-in twice, or for the various other miscreants that have been elected over the last coupla centuries.

Palin's about what one might expect for the governor of some small backwoods state, about like a Huckabee, but *McCain* should be disgraced for having accepted her as his running mate.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:41 AM
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13. um' this is the state that elected Ted Stevens to office. No offense to Alaskan DUers
but good God they aren't the best at picking public officials.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:44 AM
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16. Are you going to vote for New Coke?
Stevens is the ORIGINAL Alaskan Senator.

And I am not kidding.

Look it up!
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:43 AM
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15. At least they got rid of Frank. That must mean something.
Alaska is but a child.

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CampDem Donating Member (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 02:14 AM
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31. Well, we are growing up
We are working our asses off to go blue.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 02:19 AM
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35. And why not?
Alaska should have been blue since its inception!

:hi:
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 03:22 PM
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56. Alaska WAS blue at its inception.
Edited on Tue Oct-14-08 03:23 PM by Blue_In_AK
In fact, Dwight Eisenhower was reluctant to sign the statehood act because the Democratic legislators from Alaska would upset the balance of power in Congress. He only agreed to statehood if Hawaii was admitted the following year.

http://www.adn.com/opinion/story/457473.html

We have had Democratic governors for 7 terms, Republican for 5 and one AIP (yes, THAT AIP, although Wally Hickel was really a Republican running on that ticket)

Both Ted Stevens and Don Young attained their positions because of the death of Democratic congressmen. Ted Stevens was appointed by Gov. Wally Hickel after the death of Democrat Bob Barlett in 1968. Don Young was defeated by Democrat Nick Begich in 1972 even though Begich was missing and presumed dead in a plane crash. Young won in the special election that was held later.


It really isn't that much of a stretch to imagine that Alaska could go blue again. The majority of voters here are independent or unaffiliated, and a lot of them are pretty pissed off about Sarah.
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CampDem Donating Member (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:49 AM
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20. ahhemm...
Yes, well we thought you all might enjoy her...

Actually, Palin's popularity here is sinking like a rock. Most of the people I talk to in Anchorage are horrified and nauseated by her. Though our state has been red for decades, most of the repukes here are libertarian types and didn't know she was such a fundie. Before she became the VP nominee she acted quite centrist and worked well with our democratic people. Alaskans did not know she was such a psycho, our media here lobbed her softball questions during her gubernatorial run.

BTW Our democratic candidate Begich is beating Stevens in the polls for the senate seat and Obama is gaining more every day up here.

Alaska might just surprise you all and go blue!

BTW That Vogue picture is not really Palin's body.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:53 AM
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22. Are alaska repubs disappointed in her?
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CampDem Donating Member (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 02:06 AM
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27. I think some are very pissed off
She did not present herself this way to them.

So much new dirt has been dug up on her recently they are in shock still.

I think they will rip her apart like a pack of wolves after she comes home.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 02:21 AM
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37. They're trying to act like they're loyal
but I think a lot of them are appalled. And the Democrats and Independents are really, really pissed off because she acted like she was bipartisan here, and then as soon as she got picked she started attacking every Democrat in sight. She said she liked Obama back in early August, she didn't have a problem if Alaska turned purple, or even if Obama got picked here. Then all of a sudden the Rove machine got hold of her, she turned into this raving maniac. I think Alaskans feel betrayed more than anything else. She makes us all look like idiots, as this post amply demonstrates.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:52 AM
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21. I live in Mass. We elected Romney. I can't say squat about Alaskans.
:)
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:55 AM
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24. wasn't Romney pretty much a moderate?
He gave MA universal health care for godssake didn't he? Suddenly he turned into an a-hole conservative for the GOP primary.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 02:08 AM
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28. He ran as one, but we should have known better.
His history was there to see. Too many didn't look.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:55 AM
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25. She benefited from a very low level of expectation. Everyone hated her predecessor..
She won because she wasn't him.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 02:08 AM
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29. Not one single person on this board has any right to talk about Alaska
until they've spent at least one winter there.

Just something to keep in mind.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 02:12 AM
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30. One of my favorite short stories when I was a kid
was Jack London's "To Build a Fire"

Alaska is on my "to do" list...
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 02:36 AM
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40. As I recall, that was- how to say, a sobering story
Jack London, btw- he spent a bit of time around here:



Last year- not long from this time, a family from Northern California headed out over what looked to them on the map- or the GPS, like a fine road, a shortcut to the coast. Would that they might have made an inquiry at the Wolf Creek Tavern- or at one of the stores around there, before turning off- and looking for a shortcut.

But people are as they are- and so some do things like that- with tragic results.

So I guess the question turns to: How do we keep cool folks from doing dumb things without impeding everybody else's freedom?

Kind of a hard question.






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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 02:19 AM
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34. Only the fools who voted for her
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 02:37 AM
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41. She is a typical Repub moron
If you voted for her, then go f yourself, idiot. It really is that simple. Supermodel Sarah, infuckingdeed.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 02:54 AM
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44. No more than the respect lost for those who post fraudulent photoshop'd pics. n/t
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 02:51 PM
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55. Why do you defend Palin so vigorously?
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 08:40 PM
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60. Oh, yeah, I'm the President of her fan club, baby.
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RFKHumphreyObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 02:57 AM
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47. This is not a wise approach
Edited on Tue Oct-14-08 02:58 AM by socialdemocrat1981
I would almost guarantee that each country and each state that has a truly democratic voting system has made good and bad choices. Voters don't always select the best candidate every time -heck the fact that Ronald, Richard Nixon and * were elected to two terms (or in the case of * received enough votes to allow him to be in a position steal the election two times) should be evidence enough that voters don't always make wise decisions. But that is the nature of the democratic system that sometimes the best person doesn't always win and the worst possible choice is elected

Although if Sarah Palin is re-elected...
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 03:57 AM
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48. Why do you assume I ever had any respect for them?
:rofl:
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BklynChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 04:04 AM
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49. no more than all of the assholes who voted for Dubya. all around, this country is an embarassment
Hopefully we will redeem ourselves on NOv. 4.
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 04:30 AM
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50. This is a dumb and unnecessary thread
My state of Nevada elected Jim Gibbons in 2006, the same year Palin won in Alaska. I guarantee if Sarah Palin were running against Gibbons it would be an avalanche in her favor in every category.

Many of the states are so lopsided in partisan terms it's hellish to knock out a nominee from the advantage party. Palin received many of the benefits Obama gained this cycle. Palin ran in a hotly contested 3-way primary, against an incumbent and another well-spoken Republican. It was the main event while Knowles advanced fairly easily on the obscure Democratic side.

When Palin emerged from that primary battle with more than 50% it was an automatic bump in respect and popularity. Knowles was old news, already having run for statewide office 4 times. It would have been a stunner for Palin to lose to him.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 05:00 AM
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51. They woudl ahve voted in a toad after what they had before
and, of course, they did!
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WhoDoYouTrust Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 05:23 AM
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52. Squeeze me. too!
Life is hard enough just getting along with my friends that I try to edumicate. We don't need this here.

GOBAMA! I have to get another yard sign, but I have enough intestinal fortitude to have one in my front yard. Fuckers stole the last one.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 07:11 AM
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53. You only have to fool the right voters to win an election there.
Sex sells!

A major reason but not the only reason.
Alaska population stat:
Women - 48.3%

Generally, women outnumber men in other states.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 07:13 AM
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54. I saw an SUV yesterday with Alaska tags. Thought crossed my mind.
:)
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 03:26 PM
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57. Lots of states have morans for governors. Alaska is not unique.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 03:27 PM
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58. No more than I did the voters of California when they elected Reagan governor, twice. Or the voters
of NYC when they elected Giuliani Mayor, twice. Or the voters of...

Get my drift?


(wait for it...wait for it... "bu-bu-bu-but th-that's different!!!!!!11" said to much spluttering and indignation).
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