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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 02:57 AM
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Road to 270: Florida
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/10/road-to-270-florida.html

LAND OF BEACHES, oranges, old people and theme parks, Florida was the home in 2000 of the nation's most dramatic and profound history-altering recount in electoral history. With 5% of the electoral votes in play, it is a true battleground again in 2008. If Obama wins the state and its 27 EVs, electorally that's all she wrote. If our current projection of Obama by 4.9% holds, then Florida will probably be called early enough to be considered the determinative state on Election Night. If the race closes up, it'll be another long night in the land of sunshine.

What McCain Has Going For Him

This is the only state that McCain is still contesting for which Barack Obama did not build a primary organizing infrastructure, and McCain fought a contested primary here and won, thanks in no small part to the support offered him by Gov. Charlie Crist (who now wants little to do with McCain). Obama appeals to younger voters by huge margins, and there aren't many of those in Florida. There are a substantial number of military veterans, and McCain has huge fundraising numbers per capita -- his 4th best state. Florida has slightly better than the median for white evangelicals and slightly behind the median for Catholic voters, which adds up to a slight favoring of McCain. Though the population is highly Hispanic, many of these voters are Cubans, and Cubans have tended to be much more Republican than the Hispanic mean partisan lean. Florida tilts slightly conservative on the Likert scale and had more self-identifying Republicans than Democrats.

What Obama Has Going For Him

Barack Obama has several factors that sit to the more helpful side of the median for him and several that sit to the less helpful side for John McCain. In our sociological data, Florida is more permissive with same-sex households and has a respectable Starbucks:Walmart ratio. Also, low gun ownership doesn't help the Republican Party. It's a decently high African-American population state, and above the median in terms of female voters. Florida also ranks in the top third of states for unemployment rate, a factor that favors the Democratic candidate.

Although Obama did not have a contested primary to give him the organizing head start he's enjoyed in every other battleground state, he's made up for it by running one of the most aggressive general election campaigns in terms of offices and advertising, and forced McCain to spend money in an expensive market to compete. Florida has exemplified the repeat of Obama's "bankrupt-Hillary" spending strategy against McCain. Top staffers Steve Hildebrand and Paul Tewes have been dispatched to Florida, reflecting exactly how seriously Obama takes the state.

What To Watch For

How will elderly voters break in Florida this year? Moreover, Jewish voters are not captured in our demographic table, but there has been a big battle for these voters, with both sides actively courting this base vote to the point that Saturday Night Live's recent Palin-Biden debate sketch made reference to that message targeting. Joe Biden plays very well with elderly voters, particularly elderly women, and Florida was one place Sarah Palin hurt the Republican ticket even before her negatives began skyrocketing.

Florida is always dramatic, and early voting will help Obama begin to bank votes. Neither Al Gore nor John Kerry had anywhere near the ground operation that Obama has at his disposal, so you can count on Democratic turnout to be maximized here. McCain also has a large field operation in Florida, and we'll see when we get there in roughly 12 days how the campaigns line up on the ground.

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kennetha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 03:15 AM
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1. The Nice thing About this election
Edited on Tue Oct-14-08 03:17 AM by kennetha
is we'll know whether it's going to be a long night or a short night pretty quickly. If Obama takes enough of Florida, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Ohio, North Carolina, it'll be all but impossible for McCain to make up ground in States out West. There just aren't enough of them in play for him to recover. And we can go to bed early.

If McCain somehow manages to hold on to Virginia, Florida, Ohio, and NC (which I doubt he can do for all four) then it'll be a long night. THe next big indicators will be the upper midwest -- Minnesota, Wisconsin -- plus Missouri.

If we're still awake when they are called because McCain held in the Southeast and won Ohio, we can still go to bed relatively early if our guy takes those three.

If McCain manages to still be standing at that point, though, because he miraculously manages to takes at least one of Wisconsin, Minn, or Missouri, we're still alive and still favored. All we would have to do is take Colorado and one of New Mexico or Nevada. And even if he managed, by still another miracle to take Colorado, we could still play him to a draw and win it in the House of Representatives by taking both NM and NV -- which is highly possible anyway.

The long and short of this story, is that there are LOTS of ways for Obama to win, and only one way for McCain to win. He's got only a draw to an inside straight, while we have a draw to a straight, a flush, a full house, four of a kind, and a straight flush, simultaneously. (10h, Jh, Qh, Kh, J, J)

I like our odds a lot better.
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 05:19 AM
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2. good point
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 05:26 AM
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3. GO TO BED EARLY!!!?????
We'll be dancing in the streets. BTW the clearest indication that we're GOING TO WIN Florida was our Governor Charlie Crist deciding to go to Disney INSTEAD of campaigning for McCain. Tell me the Florida GOP doesn't know something....
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kennetha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:05 AM
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7. I'll dance in the streets for sure. But I'm too old for late night partying anymore.
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 06:27 AM
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5. I agree. If Obama wins both VA and FL, then we'll know with 95%+ certainty that he's won.
n/t
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 06:23 AM
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4. A few other factors that I believe will help Obama in Florida:
First, Florida has been his especially hard by the mortgage meltdown. The state has one of the highest rates of foreclosures in the country. Additionally, many parts of Florida are seeing a higher than average decline in home values since this market was one of the most "overheated" before the crash of the housing market.

http://www.slate.com/id/2202177

Second, Governor Charlie Crist signed an executive order which restores voting rights to ex-cons who have completed their sentence. As of the end of August, according to the article linked below about 120,000 ex-convicts have been newly registered to vote.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/florida/sfl-flffelons0830sbaug30,0,7309267.story
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 06:30 AM
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6. Florida - compare this:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/landolakes/gGgbzy

For several days in Pasco County, hardworking volunteers worked the phones contacting local Obama supporters who might want to help out in the final push to turn Florida a beautiful, deep Blue. I was one of those doing the Octoberfest phone banking; and had high hopes for our Saturday morning meeting turnout.

Being a Democrat in Land O’Lakes has not always been easy; my county has trended red for several election cycles now. But I always knew my area in the exurbs of Tampa was full of good people, they just didn’t always vote in their best interest, I’ll admit, it frustrated me, but I’m not the kind to give up in the face of opposition. So I kept at it during the primaries, calling voters in other states and writing out postcards to undecided women as their primaries approached. The country was paying more attention to the results of fear-based balloting, and they didn’t like the result.

I remained positive that once Barack Obama was free to campaign in my great state, the red tide that plagued our state would clear and the many shades of blue that truly represent Florida would return, just as the algae blooms always gave way to the more permanent turquoise and aquamarine up and down our Gulf Coast.

After working the phones and knocking on doors for the past few month in Pasco, I began to feel the winds of Change blow through this semi-rural exurb, and the Hope it gave me, I can’t describe. We work very hard, and our local staffers Holly and John keep us motivated, but there is still so much ground to cover before November – and so I looked forward to hooking up with some fresh legs and voices as early voting nears.

Arriving 20 minutes early, I grabbed a doughnut and surveyed the 30 or so chairs set up. Mentally, I divided that into 2, half for the two groups in Wesley Chapel, and half for Land O’Lakes. Being one of the Team Leaders here, having an extra 5, 6, maybe 7 volunteers would make a big difference. Three more to share to total walk packets, two more to phone bank – how sweet would that be!

People began to file in and fill seats; a quarter full, half full… it looked great! And they just kept coming. Extra chairs were pulled out, then chairs from the pool area were added as those ran out. As the meeting began, I did an informal head count. 82. Eighty-two! And more stragglers showed up that I couldn’t add to my number. The room was full, no more chairs… Standing Room Only. My heart soared.

So many great people who answered the call – who wanted to help. 17 volunteers for my area – to cover half of Land O’Lakes (not the most populous city in the country , but larger than Wasilla by half!) 12 of those folks showed up at my house to knock on their first doors ever for a candidate. We covered so much ground, and I hope they were inspired enough to come back for more phone banking and canvassing; because they inspired me more than they will ever know!


to this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7429508&mesg_id=7429508

----- Forwarded Message ----
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Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 12:39:43 PM
Subject: Paid Walks For McCain-Palin Campaign

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--
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Hillsborough County Co-Chairs
John McCain 2008


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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:08 AM
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8. k and r
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