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Tue Oct-14-08 08:25 AM
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---Did anyone see Rachel on the Today show this morning??-- |
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My friend called all upset, and said that Rachel said mccrap could still win this....so now she's worried. I didn't see it, so I'm wondering how, in what context Rachel said it...
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Tue Oct-14-08 08:26 AM
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1. I love Rachel but she also said that Hillary was going to fight all the way to the DNC |
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She has a decidedly negative view of things.
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Tue Oct-14-08 08:28 AM
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6. It was touch-and-go there for a minute. |
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Tue Oct-14-08 08:42 AM
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26. Hillary was going to fight all the way to the DNC |
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The truth is a snapshot in time.
Thank you to the people who talked her down.
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Tue Oct-14-08 01:27 PM
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42. Perhaps, but she didn't, which was the point |
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Tue Oct-14-08 02:36 PM
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52. Hillary did proud for herself, Rachel reported. |
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Tue Oct-14-08 02:45 PM
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53. I'm being attacked from both sides today |
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The pro-Hillary people and the anti-Hillary people.
I surrender. :patriot:
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Tue Oct-14-08 08:44 AM
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27. Aaaaa, Hillary fought past the DNC. |
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Obama is still paying for Hill's tenacity. Rachel was right on the money with Hillary. I hope that she is wrong about McCain. If he wins it will be with the help of the Dems long primary slug fest.
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Tue Oct-14-08 01:26 PM
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41. She didn't refuse to concede. n/t |
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Tue Oct-14-08 01:31 PM
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43. Hillary did fight all the way through the convention. She played it |
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as far as she could and it didn't stop in my opinion until McCain named Palin as his VP pick thus forcing Hillary to cast her lot with Obama instead of hoping for a McCain win.
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Tue Oct-14-08 01:35 PM
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44. Okay, Rachel is perfect, she never makes a mistake, better? |
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Neither does Thom.
I screw up all the time but I guess Rachel's infinite wisdom is not to be questioned.
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Tue Oct-14-08 01:51 PM
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Tue Oct-14-08 01:53 PM
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46. Thought that would make you feel better lol n/t |
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Tue Oct-14-08 02:01 PM
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47. I am sorry for your wounds. |
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There is nothing that will cure your hurt. So many of us here have had to choose other candidates and move on. I wish that for you.
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Tue Oct-14-08 02:16 PM
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48. What??? I've been with Obama since the moment Edwards dropped out. |
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I have never supported any Clinton in the primaries, I simply insist on fairness.
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Tue Oct-14-08 08:27 AM
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2. I didn't see it, but she was probably just warning against complacency |
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and that things can happen in 3 weeks.
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Tue Oct-14-08 08:27 AM
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3. Rachel is cautious so is Thom Hartmann. They want us to keep fighting |
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and we never know what's going to happen.
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Tue Oct-14-08 08:29 AM
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7. I think the same thing, although |
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Thom Hartmann bums me out so bad sometimes that I have to turn him off and go do something else.
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Tue Oct-14-08 08:29 AM
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Tue Oct-14-08 08:33 AM
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both he and Rachael's negative attitudes get to me once in a while... wonder how much of a lead would ease their doubt?
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Tue Oct-14-08 09:22 AM
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32. Thom and Rachel are NOT negative! |
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Tue Oct-14-08 09:25 AM
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Tue Oct-14-08 08:28 AM
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4. McCain can still win this |
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Polling data isn't votes. If she's concerned she should get to work to ensure that the unthinkable doesn't happen.
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Tue Oct-14-08 08:31 AM
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11. She's a single mother with 2 kids, and works fulltime... |
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and when she's not working, she's taking care of the kids. So there is not much time for her to "get to work to ensure that the unthinkable doesn't happen".
She talks to people about Obama, but she doesn't have time for much else. I really didn't appreciate the snark in your post.
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Tue Oct-14-08 08:34 AM
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Rachel Maddow is a single mother with 2 kids?. .???
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Tue Oct-14-08 08:36 AM
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19. I'm talking about my friend... |
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Not sure why you didn't see that I was responding to the comment made about my friend? Perhaps you should read the whole thread...
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Tue Oct-14-08 08:38 AM
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22. lol... read too fast. . sorry. . n/t |
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Tue Oct-14-08 08:41 AM
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25. I did the same thing. Did read whole thread but not #s |
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and I was surprised to hear Rachel had kids.
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Tue Oct-14-08 08:40 AM
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23. Yes and I know many people who are making those situations work |
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Edited on Tue Oct-14-08 08:41 AM by Jake3463
and helping so I don't appreciate your attack on me. The people who seem to be concerned are on the outside not on the inside.
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Tue Oct-14-08 09:14 AM
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29. You don't know JACK SHIT about my friend, or what she goes through daily, |
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Edited on Tue Oct-14-08 09:21 AM by 1corona4u
and I didn't ask for your god damned opinion on her anyway. I asked if anyone saw Rachel, but wasn't EXPECTING my friend to be JUDGED. She does what she can, but that doesn't mean she's not doing her part. You started this. You and your snarky shit about her. How dare you say she is on the outside.
You're the one yammering away on a fucking message board, she isn't. SHE'S OUT WORKING TO SUPPORT 2 SMALL KIDS.
And before, I didn't attack you. I said I didn't appreciate your snark. Now I have attacked your comments. You don't like it? Then stay the fuck out of my threads in the future.
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Tue Oct-14-08 09:18 AM
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:hi: I don't have time for over emotional posters and their concern.
Bye
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Tue Oct-14-08 09:20 AM
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Tue Oct-14-08 08:28 AM
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5. That's an improvement...not too long ago she said McCain WILL win |
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We all remember her Nervous Nellie call about Hillary taking it all the way to the convention. Just her nature.
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Tue Oct-14-08 08:30 AM
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sort of like me in that regards. Maybe it's her living in New England that gives her the pessimism?
she claimed throughout the primaries that Hillary would take the fight all the way to the convention...
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Tue Oct-14-08 09:28 AM
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37. or at the very least, a realist . . . |
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we've got to keep fighting for three more weeks and not let up
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Tue Oct-14-08 08:31 AM
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10. Rachel is the first to admit that she's a glass half full. As someone else |
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mentioned, she was convinced that Hillary would go all the way through to the convention.
But she IS right in a way (even though I didn't see it). McCain still could win it if something were to happen that would swing the tide his way. I don't see it happening, but it's not over until all the votes are counted. So tell your friend to take heart, make sure she votes and drags everybody else she knows to the polls to vote for Obama.
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Tue Oct-14-08 08:31 AM
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12. She admits to being a "glass half empty" kinda gal.. |
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That's why she has a "Talk Me Down" segment on her show... It's schtick.
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Tue Oct-14-08 08:33 AM
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14. There's no better Rachel fan than me... |
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...but, yes, she's a worry-wort. Because of this Bradley Factor thing, she probably won't come around on this until election day.
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Tue Oct-14-08 08:35 AM
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16. We want the highest turnout ever. We don't want young voters thinking its over |
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Tue Oct-14-08 08:35 AM
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17. McCain is officially 'in the game' until November 4th. Of course he can still win it. |
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It isn't likely, but the votes aren't all in.
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Tue Oct-14-08 08:36 AM
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18. OF COURSE McCain can still win. It would be foolish to think otherwise. |
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It would be a grave mistake to get overconfident three weeks out and think our guy has it in the bag.
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Tue Oct-14-08 08:36 AM
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20. So long as we all do what we can do - talk to friends, make calls, demand |
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that our Obama-voting friends and coworkers and family get to the polls - then we will be fine.
Don't worry - work - if even all you can do is just a little, do that and it will make a difference.
:hug:
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Tue Oct-14-08 08:37 AM
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21. All you have to do is watch Left of the Dial to understand where she's coming from |
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Edited on Tue Oct-14-08 08:37 AM by soleft
They show the Air America crew on election night in 2004 - and the utter and complete devastation that everyone from Franken, to Garofalo to Randi Rhodes felt as they watched Ohio and the election slip away for John Kerry.
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Tue Oct-14-08 08:41 AM
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24. Like me, Rachel's a handwringing dem who won't breathe easy until Nov 4 when 270 EVS are |
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Edited on Tue Oct-14-08 08:41 AM by DemsUnited
called for Obama.
We've had our hearts broken too many times to be wildly optimistic three weeks out even when all the signs are pretty darn optimistic...
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Tue Oct-14-08 09:24 AM
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34. I'm even worse than that |
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I'll exhale when I see Obama taking the oath of office. It's like a disease with me.
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Tue Oct-14-08 09:27 AM
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36. I'm not handwringing but I'm a cynic and I won't be fine |
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until we're sure Obama has won.
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Tue Oct-14-08 08:49 AM
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28. We must not get complacent. |
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Tue Oct-14-08 09:23 AM
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33. So,, I guess the answer is, no one saw her on the Today show. |
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I'm sure it will turn up on YT or something.
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Tue Oct-14-08 09:30 AM
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Tue Oct-14-08 09:30 AM
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38. of course, he can. ANYTHING can happen and it's not over. |
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Edited on Tue Oct-14-08 09:31 AM by npincus
I saw Rachel, and she knows what she's talking about. A lot of hard work and not being complacent will not let that happen, barring the unexpected. Kerry was on track to win in 2004 but the OBL video days before the election boosted Chimpy a couple of points, and the margin was so close that Chimp could (and did) steal it.
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Tue Oct-14-08 09:57 AM
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40. Rachel has long said she expects McCain to win. It's nothing new. |
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Tue Oct-14-08 02:20 PM
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49. Maddow has always been a bitter Hillary supporter but not quite a PUMA |
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but she's always attacked and complained about Obama. I find it very dissapointing.
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Tue Oct-14-08 02:20 PM
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50. Yup! I read that she said that. It is almost like she wants that to happen. |
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She did the same crap when Obama won the nomination. She said he was not going to be able to win the election because Hillary was going to take it to the convention floor.
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Tue Oct-14-08 02:25 PM
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51. does anyone have a link to actually watch it? I looked but couldn't find anything. |
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I like Rachael and i don't believe for one second she wants McCain to win.
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Tue Oct-14-08 02:48 PM
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54. Rachel Maddow is more of a pessimist than me. |
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And that's saying something.
She's also wrong a lot on her predictions.
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