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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:47 AM
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David Frum posts about his appearance on the Rachel Maddow show on National Review site
God, he's so slimey. Ok, so his explanation is: he was jet lagged, he has never watched the show (as we suspected), he was supposed to go on the show to discuss Afghanistan (uh, yeah right, why didn't you just ask if you could talk about that instead of acting like a massive prick...his feigned shock and outrage is about as genuine as McCain's), and...his relatives didn't think he sounded rude, so it's all good! And he claims that the MSNBC viewers who have sent him emails are mad because he didn't feel like criticizing the McCain campaign...Um, no. We deal with fucking Pat Buchanan, and he is much more respectful to Rachel than you were...if he simply wanted to make a certain point, he did it in a piss poor manner than reveals a lack of social skills. And he should do his fucking research on Rachel before throwing a hissy fit and projecting on to her as to what "her own failings" are.

http://frum.nationalreview.com/


Mirror Imaging

One follow up to the post below - and the literally hundreds of emails it has elicited ...

Just before I traveled to Afghanistan, I accepted an invitation to appear on "The Rachel Maddow Show" on MSNBC when I returned. This was not something I'd normally agree to do: I don't watch the show, but I had (or thought I had) a rough idea of what it was like.

But I write a column for The Week, the appearance was booked through them, so I agreed to do my bit.

Big mistake. I watched the show in horror in the MSNBC green room. Maybe I was a bit crankier than usual: I'm still jet-lagged enough that I have been going to bed by 8:30 most nights this week ... Anyway I was unprepared for the sarcasm and anger of what I saw.

So when it was my time to go on air - and instead of being asked about Afghanistan I was asked about how awful and hateful the John McCain campaign was - I got a little grouchy. I dont know if there's a tape visible anywhere.

(My closest relatives insist it was OK. Then again, my wife is a big believer in Judith Martin's quip that the key to a happy marriage is the ability to say with a perfectly straight face, "I don't know what you are worrying about darling. I thought you were very amusing last night, and I'm sure everyone else did as well.")

If I find it, I'll link.

Now after receiving more than 100 emails from NRO readers (mostly) scolding me for selling out the team by criticizing the McCain campaign on CBS in the morning, I am now sifting through more than 300 emails from (mostly) enraged viewers accusing me of rudeness to Ms Maddow (sorry - her fans call her "Dr Maddow") for declining to criticize the McCain campaign on MSNBC in the evening ...
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:49 AM
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1. David Frum "Roy Cohn Ain't got nothin' on me!"
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VWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 11:12 AM
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2. Scariest part of his post:
He has a wife.
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arewenotdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 11:38 AM
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11. A wife who can look him in the eye, and with a straight face say,
"You were great, sweety".

I'd pity her, but then she's Mrs. David Frum.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 11:13 AM
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3. another RW coward exposed as a whiny little momma's boy
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 11:17 AM
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4. he's magic!!
Does YOUR computer separate e-mails by content into two piles? Those from friends and those from critics? His does! He reviewed one pile and then the other.

Wow! I don't know quite what to make of that.
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:29 PM
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22. For him is friends and against is critics.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 11:19 AM
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5. what a whiney-ass. He doesn't want to admit being pwned by a smarter person
and I do mean pwned.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 11:20 AM
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6. anger?
I've never seen Rachel vent anger, either on her show or on other appearances. That's not her gig.

But the RW nutters vent a LOT of anger, starting with Rush and O'Reilly and ending with McCain himself.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 11:20 AM
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7. also, what "anger" from Rachel or the show is he referring to?
Snark, yes. Anger, no.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 11:23 AM
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8. He is still a bizarre man n/t
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 11:31 AM
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9. The man is only marginally coherent. nt
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 11:34 AM
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10. Gutless cowards over at NRO, not allowing commentary.
That, and all of their faux obits are creepy.
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Citizen Jane Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 11:39 AM
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12. As a woman who worked her ass off for a doctorate
Edited on Tue Oct-14-08 11:40 AM by Citizen Jane
That snark about "Ms. Maddow" and the subsequent "her fans call her" is extremely offensive to me.

It reads to me like he doesn't believe she deserves her title.

Guess what, the Ph.D. is THE terminal degree. My husband is an MD/PhD and he considers his PhD much more important and prestigious than his MD.

Fuck I hate when people don't give others the respect that they deserve!

Edited to correct wording error.
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 11:48 AM
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13. What a douche!
"I was jet-lagged." "I didn't like her tone." If it had been Pigboy or Orally, he'd have liked the mocking tone well enough.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 12:14 PM
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14. Someone needs to inform him she IS a Dr.
and way smarter than he is.

I thought she handled it brilliantly!
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 12:32 PM
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15. Oh, my LORD but the man is a weaselly little ass.
"sorry - her fans call her 'Dr. Maddow'...."
HEY. DICKHEAD. I believe that's called "sarcasm". You know, the same thing you were scolding Rachel about in your interview?

And NOW, let's talk about the definition of "hypocrite"....

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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 12:34 PM
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16. Mr. Frum: you are an excellent political commentator
for me to poop on!

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Honu one Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 12:36 PM
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17. Rachel handled him extremely well
With the respect he did not deserve.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 12:38 PM
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18. I was thinking: S-M-A-R-M-Y. In re: Last night's appearance!
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 12:40 PM
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19. Actually, her fans call her "Rachel." We expect YOU to call her "Dr. Maddow."
hope that's clear, Davey.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 12:45 PM
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20. The invite was a result of his column for "The Week." Anyone ever hear of the "The Week"?
I know I haven't.

Here's what I do know--if "The Week" asked me to be interviewed, I'd at least spend a half hour or so reading the damn magazine prior to accepting the invite so I'd know what I was doing, rather than griping about it once the interview got under way.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:42 PM
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24. Not only that but you'd probably know why they were interviewing you
If you got a call that you were going to be interviewed you'd familiarize yourself with the particular magazine, the writer who was going to interview you and you'd know why they were going to interview you.

Frum's trying to say he was ambushed by the liberal media when he says, "I just got back from Afghanistan." Yet, if you look at his articles in The Week you'd find all his recent columns have a theme: the 2008 presidential election. And he did an interview on CBS Monday morning in which he talked about the 2008 presidential election and McCain's problems (including Sarah Palin). He spent Tuesday blogging on NRO about reactions to his views on the presidential election.

What he is implying is that he thought he was going on to discuss something other than the election. Which means that Rachel and her staff didn't communicate with him and/or mislead him into believing that he had been invited on for another purpose.

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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 12:45 PM
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21. (sorry - her fans call her "Dr Maddow") = A**Holishness Proof.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:32 PM
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23. His appearance was booked through "The Week"
and in The Week his columns have been about the presidential race. Type in "Frum" at the The Week's website (http://www.theweek.com/) and all of his recent articles are about the presidential race. What makes him think that Rachel was going to have him on to discuss Afghanistan?

Not to mention that he had just been on CBS Monday morning and had spent part of yesterday defending his right to criticize how McCain was running his campaign. http://frum.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MjNiOTBhN2IwMmU1YjJiOTkzZDMxN2VjNWQ5NmFmOTc=

Finally, he's also, albeit subliminally, suggesting that Rachel played a "gotcha" game by not telling him what topic he had been invited on to discuss. Rachel isn't Jerry Springer. I do not believe she invite Frum on to discuss "Afghanistan" and then switched topics on him. When people are invited on to shows like Rachel's they are told, in advance, what topical issue they are discussing and/or they know they are on for a specific purpose. For example, if Frum was selling a book, he'd be booked on shows to hawk that book. He'd know why. But by mentioning he just got back from Afghanistan he's trying to make it look like Rachel was dishonest. And I know that Dr. Maddow is not a dishonest woman.

Besides that, as far as I can tell, he is the only guest that Rachel has had on who didn't know why they were there. He's so bogus.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:46 PM
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25. Oh those angry and sarcastic liberals!
It's even worse when you're jet-lagged!
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