Should we kick Lieberman out of the party after elections if we'd lose filibuster status?

[DuaneBidoux]

What if we had 59 senators not including Lieberman. Is it worth it to keep him in the party or are you in favor of finally giving him the boot no matter what?

[No Passaran]

1. Kick his ass out!

[trueblue2007]

17. I have ALWAYS thought he should be kicked out. Lieberman is an Independent - not a Democrat

Get his UGLY, wrinkled butt outta my party.

[Hamlette]

2. uh, there is no way to kick anyone out of the party

we can refuse to let him into a caucus or give him any committee chairmanships but we don't really excommunicate anyone.

I say no committee chairmanships but let him caucus with us if he wants.

[Cronus Protagonist]

15. He's not IN our party anyway.

n/t

[slick8790]

3. If we're stupid enough to lose a filibuster-proof senate over hurt feelings,

then sure, kick our Lieberman. Otherwise, let him stay. He still votes with us almost as much as he votes against us. We need every vote we can get.

[Nite Owl]

4. Just because he would be #60

doesn't mean he would vote with the dems for cloture. This isn't like needing a majority to gain leadership and chairs of committees. We still got quite a few who may not stick together like Pryor and Landreau (if she makes it), the Nelsons.

[TheCoxwain]

5. I suspect he will become a 'Loyal Democrat' after the election to ensure his own survival. NT

[RiverStone]

6. It's not worth sleeping with the enemy - he is NOT A DEM!

[librechik]

7. he could never be counted to vote with us

he hasn't for several years

[mrcheerful]

8. Memory problems? Liberman is not a democratic party member

remember in 2006 he was voted in as an independent.-

[jonnyblitz]

11. on the CT ballot that election year he was "CT for Lieberman".

that's what his party was listed as.

[Marrah_G]

9. Errrrr- he kicked himself out...........

[4lbs]

10. If Lieberman is #60, he'll usually side with the Republicans, so it's essentially having only 59

anyway.

Thus, get rid of him and help elect someone who WILL be a true Democrat.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

12. I say kick him out, but at the very list he should sit in a corner in the senate wearing

a dunce hat for the remainder of his term.

[No Passaran]

13. He won't caucus with us over Iraq

So what's the point

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

14. THE 60 VOTE THRESH-HOLD IS NOT AN ORGANIZATIONAL MATTER!!!

Sorry for shouting, but this keeps coming up.

The 60 vote thresh-hold for cloture is a case-by-case vote-by-vote matter.

It has nothing to do with the number of senators in a party caucus. (Unlike organizational matters like controlling committees.)

Each senator votes for or against cloture as an individual.

You can have 70 Democrats on paper but if they don't vote for cloture it's irrelevant.

[demokatgurrl]

16. What, he's still there? n/t

[D23MIURG23]

18. He'd be of no use to us anyway.

At very least he needs to loose his committee appointments - he will do more damage than good otherwise.

[Cha]

19. lieberman the fucking lying, traitor is not

IN the party.

[high density]

20. He's not included to begin with so... I'm not sure what the point is

We'd probably have better luck getting somebody like Olympia Snowe over to our side on most issues.

[last1standing]

21. Lieberman already votes against cloture in many cases.

So kicking him out of the party wouldn't change anything in that regard.

However, what I'd suggest is merely removing him from his chairmanships and let him decide which party he wants to caucus with after that.

[dudewheresmycountry]

22. I was able to vote to

kick him out in 2004 and did, then the SOB turned independent and the republicans voted him in. Yes of course he should be kicked out and given no status as a junior nobody.......

[pansypoo53219]

23. anytime lieberfuckenputz

goes on teevee with a D behind his name he hurts DEMOCRATS.

[NHDEMFORLIFE]

24. The man is delusional and can be dangerous

He sees himself as this wily powebroker, wielding his independence in such a way that he truly believes that he can single-handedly make the Democratic Party roll over on command. In truth he is an egomaniacal weasel who, as we have seen, has no qualms about throwing the Democratic Party under the nearest bus whenever the whim strikes him.
In the long run, the party is better off without him, regardless of whatever procedural issues he might help us solve. Let the Repukes take him and deal with his insufferable self.