Marc Ambinder says the new CBSNews/NYTIMES poll to be released "will spur a lot of discussion".....

[jezebel]

I'm not sure that's good news. A nice Obama lead would be par for the course so is he hinting it's good for McCain?

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/10/cbstimes_poll_right_track_in_s.php

14 Oct 2008 04:03 pm

CBS News and the New York Times have a big new poll out tonight, with the head-to-head numbers released at 6:30 ET. The poll will spur a lot of discussion....

The news networks have released a teaser of sorts: nearly 90% of Americans think the country is headed on the wrong track; seven percent thing it is headed in the right direction. That's half of what it was a month ago.

[WI_DEM]

1. didn't the last CBS News Poll also show a narrow lead for Obama compared to other polls?

[jezebel]

4. Yes, the last CBS poll only had Obama up 3 at a time when most others had him up 6 or more. nt

[XemaSab]

2. A 90% rate for Obama would certainly

"spur a lot of discussion"..... :D

[AllentownJake]

3. 90% of people thinking we are on the wrong path

is not good for the nominee of the party in power. Probably Obama's largest poll lead yet. Dare to dream we break 55%?

[greyl]

5. It could indicate an even bigger Obama/Biden lead, too. nt

[medeak]

6. thanks for the heads up! n/t

[Bullet1987]

Based on the teaser...it sounds like it should be good for Obama

It could spur a lot of discussion because it has Obama ahead BIG. When the national average for Obama's lead is in the single-digits but outside the margin of error.

90% of the country thinks we're on the wrong track...that's not good news for McJoke!! LOL

[unpossibles]

7. "90% of Americans think the country is headed on the wrong track"

and nearly half of them are going to fall for letting it continue unabated.

I'm sorry, but people piss me off sometimes. I don't really care if someone votes for whomever, as long as it is for a factually based reason, and is an informed decision. Sure, I'd rather people did not vote GOP, but if they are extremely wealthy or racists, I suppose that's their right to feel represented. For the poor and misinformed (ie: their base), I just don't get it. They revel and wallow in being ignorant assholes who base their vote on absolute falsehoods, then act hurt when you finally get sick of it.

Sorry. </rant>

[Bullet1987]

13. Most people are partisan to their core

They can't bring themselves to admit they were wrong, so instead come up with tons of weak excuses to justify their irrational decision-making from the start. Look at the old battles we used to wage on the internet against Bush defenders. Even when it's clear they're in the wrong, they still stubbornly persist...even if it's against their interest. It's weird.

[ericgtr]

8. If it showed them tightening it would be a pretty big outlier that's for sure

It will be interesting to see what it "spurs" though. I'm on the line.

[high density]

9. 90% wrong path??

Woah...

[Bake]

10. The teaser suggests a big surge for Obama.

90% think the country is on the wrong track? That means they're ready for CHANGE.

Bake

[Renew Deal]

27. Or not

Either Obama is up by like 15 or it's a very close race... Or there could be some weird internals around gender, race, region, etc.

[Bicoastal]

11. Here we go again...o noes, it's a trap, we're screwn and all that...

sigh:eyes:

[BootinUp]

17. fyi... every time I see

"screwn" I nearly cry laughing and my face starts hurting.

[ErinBerin84]

12. and there's an LA Times poll

That Halperin claims will "confirm McCain's status as an underdog". But I bet if the McCain numbers are favorable for him in the NYT poll, NYT will be the RW's new best friend for the day.

[Brotherjohn]

19. "confirm McCain's status as an underdog". I like that . When does that one come out? (nt)

[ErinBerin84]

25. I'm not sure...sometime tonight (yeah I know, really specific of me, huh?)

[Brotherjohn]

31. Just found it on Halperin's Time blog: 5PM ET. (nt)

[A-Schwarzenegger]

47. LA TIMES is 50-41 Obama.

[Overseas]

14. Yes. They've probably figured out a way to skew things toward McLame.

They're pushing hard to promote the Republican cause for the Republican owners of their media corporations.

[carpe diem]

15. it will definitely spur

discussion if more people think the country is headed in the wrong direction but don't want to change things...

[Undercurrent]

16. will be released at 6:30 ET tonight

October 14, 2008, 3:00 PM
Wrong Track Indicator Hits Another All-Time High
Posted by Vaughn Ververs| Comments86


A new CBS News/New York Times poll finds that 89 percent of Americans believe that country is on the wrong track, a new all-time high surpassing the 83 percent who said the same earlier this year. Just seven percent of Americans in the poll said they felt the country was headed in the right direction, down from 14 percent in September. Solid majorities of Republicans, Democrats and Independents agreed that the nation is on the wrong track.

The right direction/wrong track number is a key indicator of the mood of the country and just three weeks from Election Day is further evidence of the economic crisis that has rattled the presidential race. The poll was conducted Friday through Monday, mostly following last week’s historic drop in the stock market. Previous polls have shown voters are more confident in Barack Obama’s ability to improve the economy and both candidates have recently unveiled new proposals aimed at easing concerns.

The full CBS News/New York Times poll will be released at 6:30 ET tonight. Tune into the CBS Evening news and check back here at CBSNews.com for full results.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/10/14/politics/horserace/entry4521972.shtml
http://www.cbsnews.com/

[Thrill]

18. Does this mean Mccain has made gains in their poll?

Why would Obama leading cause discussion

[orestes]

22. Might depend on how much he is leading by i guess

[Bullet1987]

24. Obama leading by 6%-8% isn't worth discussion

It's in line with the other polls out there. Obama leading by more than 10% and closer to 13% WOULD be a cause for discussion. Remember, this isn't a daily tracking poll.

[blue_onyx]

42. That's what I thought too

Guess we'll have to wait and see :)

[LynneSin]

20. If 90% of those polled think the country is heading in the wrong direction

then how the hell can they be voting for McCain?

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

23. Cognitive dissonance? n/t

[Thrill]

29. Maybe thats why they think it will cause discussion

[dennis4868]

21. could their poll..

show that McCain has a lead within the MOE? I know it sounds crazy but I've seen crazy things in my lifetime when it comes to politics.

[carpe diem]

33. if they had a poll showing

McCain with any kind of a lead, when every other national poll on the planet has Obama leading at a minimum beyong the margin of error, they would never release it...the credibility of every poll they release from now on would be called into question...

[JaneQPublic]

26. "The answer may surprise you."

That's the tease line they always use on NBC news. The news shows all need to have a teaser, just to get you to tune in.

So whether there's anything in the poll to "spur a lot of discussion" or not, they have to hype it just the same.

[Drunken Irishman]

28. I don't see how anyone can look at that statement as for or against Obama.

You could make an argument for both.

Maybe it's something else in the poll, like Obama holding a solid lead in who will lead better on terrorism. Or maybe Americans saying they're tired of the dirty campaign McCain is running.

[WI_DEM]

30. Watch DU go nuts if the CBS poll is close and forget about the loads of other polls showing Obama

with a solid lead.

[rucky]

32. It's not necessarily a Presidential poll.

Maybe the teaser is the shocking news?

[jazzjunkysue]

34. I got these numbers on their site:

"The surveys also indicate that Obama is significantly more trusted on economic issues than McCain. In Wisconsin, 53 percent said Obama "better understands the economy" while just 32 percent chose McCain. The numbers were not much better in Michigan (52 percent Obama/35 percent McCain), Minnesota (49/34) or Colorado (51/39)."

It's an article on CBS news saying he's widening his lead to double digits.

So, I can't see how the numbers could be bad-

[WI_DEM]

35. So is it on state polls?

[Drunken Irishman]

36. Actually, we'll just wait and see.

[Drunken Irishman]

37. .

[Drunken Irishman]

38. Those numbers are from a Washington Post/Quinnipiac Poll, not CBS.

[FreeState]

39. "will spur a lot of discussion" = advertising the CBS news - nothing else IMO n/t

[soccermomforobama]

40. Maybe McCain dropped significantly

that would keep people talking about how bad an idea it was to bring up Ayers and any other character assaults.

Like someone else said, if it shows that O and M are very close or even M with a lead then it will be an obvious outlier

[jazzjunkysue]

41. North Dakota is blue today...Maybe that's it.

www.electoral-vote.com

[Cha]

43. How the heck did North Dakota get

so baby blue?

[darius15]

49. One poll showed Obama up 45-43. I believe it was an outlier, but ND is definitely within reach.

[Cha]

54. But, I mean the reasoning behind it? Who is out there

campaigning for Obama and Biden with such amazing results?:)

Is it the Economy? :think:

[THUNDER HANDS]

44. that could mean a lot of different things

say Obama is up 55-40, THAT would spur a lot of discussion, wouldn't it?

[nsd]

45. No worries: Sullivan's heard it's Obama 53, McCain 39.

Sullivan

[deadparrot]

46. Thanks for the info.

:thumbsup:

[Cali_Democrat]

48. Nice!!! n/t

[WinkyDink]

50. CBLet'sGetRidofDanRatherS? THAT CBS?

[theothersnippywshrub]

51. Looks to me like he was right,. Because it already has. Good tease for CBS.

Good poll? Who knows?

[chieftain]

52. 14 point lead for Barack. GOBAMA !!!

[vaberella]

55. I saw this poll on CNN.

I saw them talking about it, and then they moved on to ACORN. Idiots.

[anigbrowl]

53. POLL RELEASED: 14 POINT LEAD!!! 8-D

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/14/opinion/polls/main4522273.shtml?tag=topStory;topStoryHeadline

[Born_A_Truman]

56. This is great!!

From your link:

Obama is widely seen as running the more positive campaign: Sixty-one percent of those surveyed say McCain is spending more time attacking his opponent than explaining what he would do as president. Just 27 percent say the same of Obama.

McCain's favorable rating has fallen four points from last week, to 36 percent, and is now lower than his 41 percent unfavorable rating. Obama, by contrast, is now viewed favorably by half of registered voters and unfavorably by just 32 percent.


I've said all along people are tired of the mud slinging. McCain/Palin have buried themselves with their mud.