MCCAIN: "Zero?"

[sabra]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/10/debate-transcri.html

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MCCAIN: Now, my old buddy, Joe, Joe the plumber, is out there. Now, Joe, Senator Obama's plan, if you're a small business and you are able -- and your -- the guy that sells to you will not have his capital gains tax increase, which Senator Obama wants, if you're out there, my friend, and you've got employees, and you've got kids, if you don't get -- adopt the health care plan that Senator Obama mandates, he's going to fine you.

Now, Senator Obama, I'd like -- still like to know what that fine is going to be, and I don't think that Joe right now wants to pay a fine when he is seeing such difficult times in America's economy.

Senator Obama wants to set up health care bureaucracies, take over the health care of America through -- as he said, his object is a single payer system.

If you like that, you'll love Canada and England. So the point is...

SCHIEFFER: So that's your objective?

OBAMA: It is not and I didn't describe it...

MCCAIN: No, you stated it.

OBAMA: I just...

MCCAIN: Excuse me.

OBAMA: I just described what my plan is. And I'm happy to talk to you, Joe, too, if you're out there. Here's your fine -- zero. You won't pay a fine, because...

MCCAIN: Zero?

OBAMA: Zero, because as I said in our last debate and I'll repeat, John, I exempt small businesses from the requirement for large businesses that can afford to provide health care to their employees, but are not doing it.

I exempt small businesses from having to pay into a kitty. But large businesses that can afford it, we've got a choice. Either they provide health insurance to their employees or somebody has to.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/Story?id=6043298&page=2

Joe the Plumber's Health Insurance

McCain said that small businessman "Joe the Plumber" would end up paying a fine if he refused to provide his workers with health insurance under Barack Obama's health care plan.

FALSE: Under the Obama proposed health plan, small businesses are exempt from a requirement imposed on large companies that they contribute to a national health fund if they fail to make "a meaningful contribution" to their employees' health care costs.

[holiday]

1. did you see McCain's face when Obama said zero

he really thought he had obama on this and he was shocked lmao

[sabra]

2. in my opinion - it was one great left hook by Obama

McCain was like :wtf: was I just schooled?

[Catshrink]

8. Classic rope a dope!

[MadrasT]

3. That was my single favorite moment of the debate. n/t

[woodsprite]

11. Mine to! My daughter and I made so much noise laughing that

my hubby came downstairs to see what was so funny.

[high density]

5. McCain pooped his pants at this point

[Higher Standard]

6. Couldn't poop 'em when he was caught with his pants down.

He sounded like he just plain hadn't been paying attention at all.

[gkhouston]

9. This is what happens when the people "advising" you on policy matters

let talking points color their acquisition of factual material. :rofl:

[JBoy]

4. As a Canadian, I'd like to say "fuck you, McCain".

I'll bet any amount of money that he doesn't understand how the Canadian system actually works.

[EnviroBat]

7. Is that last picture of McCain propping his eye open.

This guy is an insult and an embarrassment to all of us. Just a few more days, and he will be like a fart in the wind.

[DeepBlueDem]

10. John McCocaine was seriously high last night

the snorting, the rocking back and fourth, his temperment, his eyes.

I DONT CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYS...JOHN MCCAIN WAS HIGH LAST NIGHT.