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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 10:52 AM
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How many Supreme Court Justices will announce their retirement Jan 21 once Obama wins?
3? 4?

Maybe if we're lucky, Thomas, Alito, Scalia and Roberts will resign in protest
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 10:53 AM
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1. Justice Stevens deserves a well deserved retirement
And I've read that Justice Souter might be interested in leaving the Court.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 10:53 AM
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2. With the economy the way it is, maybe they'll be laid off? ...(nt)
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:02 AM
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13. Some of the justices should have been fired for what they did in 2000.
:grr:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 10:54 AM
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3. I hope Scalia is replaced during a Democratic term.
That would be just perfect.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 10:54 AM
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4. I really hope Obama get to pick a replacement for Scalia.......I don't care why.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 10:58 AM
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9. I hope Obama gets to replace Clarence Thomas seat.....
that was Thurgood Marshall and to have someone like Thomas in that seat is like saying Sarah Palin is a good substitute for Hillary Clinton.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 10:55 AM
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5. Scalia hasn't been looking real healthy lately
and Roberts is upset his pay isn't high enough.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 10:57 AM
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7. Sigh... we'll have probably another 30 years of John Roberts.
Let's hope he's very much out numbered.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 10:58 AM
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8. If Kennedy resigns and is replaced by a very left elaning justice
Roberts may resign because he doesn't want to preside over a liberal SCOTUS.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:06 AM
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16. THAT would be great news!
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 10:55 AM
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6. Ginsburg is getting pretty old... she may be first.
Well her and Stevens.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:01 AM
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11. I think her and Stevens will both step down at the same time
I wish the president could pick their own choice for Chief Justice. Roberts wouldn't lose his seat but relegated to just regular status
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:01 AM
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12. Yes. Stevens is 88, Ginsburg is 75. It wouldn't be surprising to see them both retire soon.
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 10:59 AM
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10. I don't know.. but I am SOOOO relieved it will be Obama choosing!
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:02 AM
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14. Ginsberg and Stevens will leave in 2009. Scalia will leave in 2010.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:06 AM
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17. Bush marginalized Scalia by passing him over for Chief Justice.
Fat Tony was pretty pissed about that.

Bake
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:30 AM
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23. However, Scalia is enough of a partisan
that he'll attempt to hold out for as long as it takes to get another Republican president... in 9 years, he will still be younger than Stevens is now.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:03 AM
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15. There is a real possiblity that scalia in the next 8 years
Obviously the most probable are Stevens, Breyer, and Ginsberg

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DangerDave921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:07 AM
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18. ZERO
I think we need to rethink how SCOTUS judges are kept on the bench for life. I don't think it serves any real purpose to have an 85-year-old judge on the court, especially when he's been on for 30 years. We need a fixed term. Maybe 15 years. And maybe a rotating basis of selecting so it's not the luck of the draw whether the president is R or D. Not a very efficient system.

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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:13 AM
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20. The court is supposed to be immune from the whims of the current political climate.
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DangerDave921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:41 AM
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24. I understand that
But what we have now is exactly that - a political football every time a new judge is appointed. We've gone from evaluation of competency, experience, and temperament to a pure ideological tit-for-tat deal where it is nothing but a political issue. Roberts and Alito, for example, were both perfectly solid candidates based on the traditional analysis. But many Dems voted against them. And now Obama will appoint left-leaning judges whom RW'ers will oppose.

If we had a fixed term, and a rotational basis for appointing, it would remove SCOTUS from being a political animal. Of course this would require that the Constitution be amended.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:10 AM
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19. Ginsberg really deserves the rest
she's been an absolute lioness.

:applause:

But she is 75 and a cancer survivor too. She's earned her rest.

We :loveya: Justice Ginsberg!
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:18 AM
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21. I'll bet Stevens has his letter already written
And Ginsberg is thinking about it.

I hope we do get rid of Fat Tony Scalia as well, but I'm sure he'll drink the blood of puppies or whatever else Satan requires of him to stay on the bench.
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:23 AM
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22. Within the next four years we can count on at least three - possibly four.
Stevens, Ginsberg and Souter are all wanting to retire but have held on to see who will win this election. They are also three of the four most liberal voices on the court so a mcRacist win would swing the SCOTUS far to the right. Unfortunately, the fourth likely to retire is Breyer, the remaining liberal voice. This means that even with an Obama win, we pick up no conservative seats on the bench.

The bright side to this, possibly, is that while all four of these justices are considered liberal, really they are moderates according to today's standards. If Obama wins, gets a decent majority in the senate and feels free to move to the left, he could nominate true liberals who are more interested in preserving the Constitution than the status quo. It's a long shot but at least a possibility.

As for the remaining five conservatives on the bench, they were all nominated because of their fascist beliefs and their relative youth. None of them are likely to leave the bench before the next election in 2012 or even 2016 unless a repub is elected. Because of this it will be a stacked court of four liberals and five conservatives for at least another eight years unless one of the conservatives dies or becomes incapacitated.
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