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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 10:27 PM
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So, Exactly How is Joe The Plumber Related to Keating?
I'm damn confused at this point. I just read one report that his grandfather is Keating, another one that just says "relative", and another one that said "distant relative"

do we have anything nailed down in respect to the true relationship yet?
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 10:30 PM
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1. I believe they're both third cousins to Johnny Gan, millionaire entertainer.
Edited on Thu Oct-16-08 10:30 PM by A-Schwarzenegger
Other than that, it's all rumor & in new window.
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 10:32 PM
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2. helpful.
thank you.

:P


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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 10:38 PM
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5. Nobody likes the real answer:
There is absolutely no relationship whatsoever, as in "none".
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 10:41 PM
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8. Can you go be a McCain apologist somewhere else please?
Thanks.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 10:44 PM
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9. I heard KO say tonight that the relationship is non existent
Even if the similar names are problematic
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 10:48 PM
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11. Please don't inject reality into this discussion.
Some people are allergic to it. :)
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 10:46 PM
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10. With all due respect,
Edited on Thu Oct-16-08 10:49 PM by A-Schwarzenegger
insert your demented bean into your caboose,
and all your sixteenth cousins can join in.
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 10:49 PM
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12. /yawn

Try harder, pls.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 10:59 PM
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15. How is your head just like the charge that Joe is related to Keating?
No peeking. Don't wait for the translation.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 10:32 PM
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3. He probably isn't.
There seem to be several people with similar names involved & nothing really checks out. If if did, it would be a useless bit of random information anyway. Time spent following this one down is likely to be totally wasted. I wish people would lose it.
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 10:34 PM
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4. huh.
I'm finding it rather interesting, myself. If it is true, and hits the MSM, it could possibly destroy the McCain campaign.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 10:40 PM
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6. Keating's son-in-law is a Robert Wurzelbacher; so any relationship is through that marriage
Edited on Thu Oct-16-08 10:44 PM by Spider Jerusalem
it's probably a distant relationship; I have no idea how many Wurzelbachers there are in Ohio; it doesn't seem a very COMMON name, but in an area with so many people of German descent, it's probably not uncommon, either; they're probably something like second or third cousins. I'm not sure if your second cousin's father-in-law counts as 'related' in any but the six-degrees-of-separation sense.
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 10:55 PM
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13. It's a very common name in Ohio.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 12:07 AM
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18. Not so much, apparently; there are only 48 in the Social Security Death Index
(that's in the while country, over the past 50 years or so); almost all of them from Hamilton County or Butler County Ohio. It seems almost certain that any two people who share such an extremely uncommon surname will be related, even if distantly.
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 10:41 PM
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7. I'm not sure he is, but there's a lot of "interesting" stuff in his background.
The tax lien, the income that would never be taxed as he fears under Obama's plan, the fact that he's not a licensed plumber...
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 10:58 PM
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14. How could there be a guy with the same EXACT name (an unusual one to boot)
that happens to have lived on KEATING Drive in Arizona? Can someone explain to me how there could be two people with the name "Samuel Joseph Wartzenbocker (or whatever the fuck his name is)" that have no relation to each other. Now the same last name, albeit unusual, is one thing.. but the same first and last names? And on KEATING Drive? Has to be a relative of some sort... and there is a guy with that last name that was part of the Keating Five.

No. .there has to be a connection there. it's just too friggin' coincidental.
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TheManagement Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:24 PM
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16. annnd
Guess what? Charles Keating was part of the development of that area he was living, hence the name. You know what else? He lived at two different addresses on Keating Ave. Sounds like a sweat heart free ride from an uncle to me.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:45 PM
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17. Olbermann says no relationship
He said it's a very common name in Ohio and there is no relationship.
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