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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 06:32 AM
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Dean, Clark in statistical tie Dean loses over 21 percent
Edited on Wed Jan-07-04 06:33 AM by wyldwolf
Howard Dean, the former Vermont governor who pulled away from the Democratic field in early December, lost his lead over No. 2 Wesley Clark, the former NATO commander, in a USA Today/CNN/Gallup Poll conducted Friday through Monday.

Dean slipped from a 21-percentage-point lead over Clark to a 4-percentage- point gap, effectively a tie within the poll's 5-percentage-point margin of error.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0107dems-poll070.html
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Clark Campaigner Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 06:34 AM
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1. we're moving up steadily
to win the nomination when all is said and done.




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NV1962 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 06:34 AM
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2. Life is good
Up and away!
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 06:43 AM
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3. This is why there are so many "Clark is a neocon" posts up this morning...
Apparently Dean, and thus some of his supporters, are losing it.

Say - do you suppose that strategy plan Dean concocted to attack Clark was also extented to Dean's supporters?
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NV1962 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 06:45 AM
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4. Yup - secretly through the front pages
LOL
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helleborient Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 06:53 AM
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5. Anyone notice Clark has gained only 3, Dean lost 1 since Dec 5-7
And the lead was only 8 Dec. 5-7

Over the last month

Dean 25-31-27-24

Clark 17-10-12-20

Kerry 7-10-11-7

This is a poll that has fluctuated wildly in the last month.

The race certainly seems fluid, according to this poll.

The national margin of error is 3, according to the poll, not 5 like reported here. The 5 margin of error is for the results for half-samples on some of the demographic items.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 07:06 AM
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9. Lets just post the chart


http://www.gallup.com/poll/releases/pr040107.asp

Easier to understand with the visual for some of us.
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helleborient Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 07:10 AM
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12. So what happened earlier when Clark lost 7 pts. in 1 week??
Just curious...
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 07:24 AM
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17. Obviously Dean
Had a big bounce there, Was that when Gore endorsed him? Clark is still coming up on the radar as far as name recognition, knowledge of his positions, just getting to know him.
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helleborient Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 06:54 AM
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6. For full information on the poll
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Romberry Donating Member (632 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 06:59 AM
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7. Gallup? LOL!!!
Dude! Gallup? Come on! Gallup is a joke and has been for several years. When Matt Drudge gets around to doing a Google on Wesley Clark + Dyncorp + sex, it's all over. The General is toast.
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Skywalker Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 07:01 AM
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8. National Poll?
Aren't nominees chosen on a state to state basis rather than on a national level? I personally do not put much credence to national polls in regards to choosing a Presidential candidate. Isn't how well each of nine does in each progressive state have more of an impact on who gets nominated?

And who cares how well anyone does against Bush before Primaries start? I would like to think the numbers would go up in match between the chosen Democrat and Bush. The support is so fractured among the group that there can't possibly be an accurate match up.

Oh well, before then speculation will run rampant, in the media and here as well.

Mark
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helleborient Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 07:08 AM
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10. Yes, Dean opponents once said national polls mean nothing
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 07:09 AM
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11. You raise a good point
Nobody is claiming victory yet I hope. But the trend is hard to ignore, especially when coupled with Clarks gains in NH:

http://americanresearchgroup.com/nhpoll/demtrack/
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helleborient Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 07:11 AM
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13. You mean Clark's NH fluctuations between 12 and 14? (n/t)
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 07:18 AM
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15. No, that is only for one week
ARG(12/15-17)--45%---20%-----8%
---------------Dean--Kerry---Clark
Clark is up from 8% to 14% in 3 weeks.
Dean is Down 7%
Kerry is Down 6%
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Skywalker Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 07:16 AM
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14. Clark is...
...not running a campaign in Iowa. Will that have an adverse effect on him for the rest of the primaries? If he places lower than second in New Hampshire? Will he get back on track if he takes South Carolina?

These are all questions that will be answered as time passes.

I think too many people put too much emphasis on polls. In my 43+ years of existence on the little ball o' mud, I have never been asked to participate in a political poll. Maybe it's because I am not a registered Repub or a Dem, but Independent and live in a state that no one cares about - denial (just kidding I'm in Vermont, of course).

Mark
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 07:19 AM
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16. I do not believe this poll... It's the "lets not count the votes poll"
there is no reason for that drastic a change.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 07:33 AM
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18. Its a vast left wing conspiracy!!!!!!
:tinfoilhat:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 07:37 AM
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19. You'd be better off not believing any polls
like me :)
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 07:53 AM
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20. Lesson #1 of Politics
Good, scientific polls don't lie.

If anyone thought this thing wasn't going to get close at the end, well they were naive.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 08:04 AM
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21. Nice way to start my day!
I'll be smiling all day long. Thanks for posting this....each day is better than the day before.
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