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Fri Oct-17-08 11:50 AM
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Powell will be endorsing McCain. Count on it. |
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Anyone that doesn't see it is a fool.
I hate to be so blunt, but I've seen too many stories today where the Republicans are claiming that this is end of their campaign. They are trying desperately to set this up for Obama, so when it doesn't happen it will be reported as a big surprise/shocker/game changer.
Please kick this thread if you agree. I want everyone to do their best in knocking this meme down.
Of course, I'll be happy if I'm wrong.
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Fri Oct-17-08 11:51 AM
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1. I agree! He will endorse McCain. nt |
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Fri Oct-17-08 11:51 AM
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2. There are already threads exactly like yours. |
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Fri Oct-17-08 11:53 AM
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6. Good. That's exactly what I want. |
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Fri Oct-17-08 11:54 AM
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Fri Oct-17-08 11:54 AM
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7. Powell Powell bobowell, banana fana fo fowell me mi mowell. Powell! |
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Move over Joe, you've been replaced by Colin Powell.
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Fri Oct-17-08 11:55 AM
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12. What is this 6th grade? |
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Have you been following politics for very long, or are you new to this?
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Fri Oct-17-08 11:57 AM
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17. yes i'm brand new to this. |
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Fri Oct-17-08 11:52 AM
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Fri Oct-17-08 11:52 AM
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4. If he doesn't I am sure you will be starting a thread to remind us of how wrong you were. n/t |
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Fri Oct-17-08 11:57 AM
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18. I'd be happy to be wrong on this one - just like I said in the OP. |
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Did you only read the title when you made your comment? Looks like it.
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Fri Oct-17-08 12:44 PM
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32. Yes I did because I was pretty sure that was the gist of the post. |
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I didn't see any point in reading more. I still don't.
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Fri Oct-17-08 11:52 AM
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5. I'm not sure why anyone cares who Powell endores.... |
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He's been out of government for a while now and he lied to us about Iraq. He's irrelevent and his endorsement has as much meaning to the average American as the endorsement of any Hollywood star. *yawn*
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Fri Oct-17-08 11:54 AM
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8. The media will care. They are desperate for a McCain "game changer". |
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Fri Oct-17-08 11:55 AM
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11. Powell, who didn't even attend the RNC, will NOT endorse McCain..... |
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Fri Oct-17-08 12:12 PM
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25. I hope you're right. But do we know that for sure? |
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I'd rather we assume Powell will pick McCain, so it's not a surprise if he does.
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Fri Oct-17-08 12:51 PM
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Was he invited/urged to attend, I wonder? Did he turn them down? Was he too busy..like Charlie Crist in Florida? (wouldn't meet up with mcMean)
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Fri Oct-17-08 12:39 PM
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31. Totally agree. It's completely irrelevant at this point, either way. |
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Fri Oct-17-08 11:54 AM
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9. After the way reThugs have treated him if he does then he's lost a LOT of respect for himself |
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Fri Oct-17-08 11:54 AM
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10. That was my first thought, too. Especially because the Republicans said it will be Obama... |
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When do they ever tell the truth? :shrug:
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Fri Oct-17-08 11:56 AM
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13. It might help Obama but it won't help McCain much because they are both Republicans |
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It is only news when a Republican crosses over. If it's the other way around there isn't much to talk about. Powell helped lie us into the Iraq war so who fucking cares what he thinks anyway?
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Fri Oct-17-08 01:20 PM
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38. It will help McCain get the black vote |
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Edited on Fri Oct-17-08 01:32 PM by Heather MC
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Fri Oct-17-08 11:56 AM
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14. I don't think he'll endorse anyone--but if he does it'll be Gramps. |
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And the media, breathlessly, will report it as "MOMENTUM SHIFT GUYS HAY WE MIGHT BE RELEVANT AGAIN!"
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Fri Oct-17-08 11:57 AM
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15. I'm cautious. But I think he will endorse no one |
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blather on about how both are great and crawl back under his rock.
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Fri Oct-17-08 11:57 AM
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16. Why wouldn't he support McCain? |
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I've never understood this idea that he'll go with Obama.
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Fri Oct-17-08 11:59 AM
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19. I agree. But, it's the Republicans that are trying to set this up as a loss for McCain. |
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Therefore, making it appear to be a much bigger deal if actually picks McCain.
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Fri Oct-17-08 12:01 PM
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I haven't listened to the news today, so I wasn't aware of this. I just know there's been speculation on this board about Powell endorsing Obama.
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Fri Oct-17-08 01:10 PM
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36. Perhaps because McCain chose an ill-prepared wack-job as a running mate? |
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this probably doesn't sit too well with the military brass or certain other factions of the GOP. Perhaps more is known in Washington power circles about McCain's health and this shit scares them.
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Fri Oct-17-08 11:59 AM
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Powell is a rightie, despite his waffling.
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Fri Oct-17-08 12:01 PM
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22. Sadly i think your right |
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Fri Oct-17-08 12:09 PM
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24. I completely agree - they are trotting him out for the very reason |
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His history, when push comes to shove, shows that he will do anything for the GOP and his GOP handlers. There's some aura surrounding Colin Powell being some kind of "moderate" because he occasionally goes up against the GOP. But it's always after the fact, well beyond a time where he could do something about it.
I'll be happy to say I was wrong in front of everyone here and I really hope I have the opportunity to do so, but the facts and the history show otherwise.
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Fri Oct-17-08 12:17 PM
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26. "Anyone that doesn't see it is a fool" |
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Really? Why the certitude? And why the insult to those how may dare to disagree or at least have some minuscule amount of doubt?
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Fri Oct-17-08 12:18 PM
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27. He ALREADY ENDORSED McCAIN! |
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Donating $2300 to tehe McCain campaign IS AN ENDORSEMENT!
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Fri Oct-17-08 12:46 PM
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33. That was in August 0f 2007.... when he thought the alternative was Hillary.... |
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Fri Oct-17-08 12:23 PM
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28. I agree. It makes perfect sense. n/t |
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Fri Oct-17-08 12:25 PM
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Posted my own thread on this this morning.
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Fri Oct-17-08 01:04 PM
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35. My prediction--he will endorse no one. |
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Fri Oct-17-08 01:54 PM
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40. Yes. Powell's recommendation means nothing. |
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He supported the Bushes for a long time. He allowed his own military plan for sensible intervention to be stomped all over by the Bushes. He said nothing when he knew what was being done. If he came out for Obama now, it would only look like he was trying to save his own legacy.
This would not preclude Powell being consulted on occasion by President Obama, if it seems that expertise would help a situation, but for Powell to do anything now would be a mistake for him.
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Fri Oct-17-08 01:15 PM
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37. Does smell like one of their cheesy gambits. |
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But even they aren't fool enough to expect a McCain endorsement from a known bush toadie to be a game changer.
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Fri Oct-17-08 01:29 PM
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39. Powell lost all credibility when he drank the Bush/Cheney kool-aid |
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in the selling of the Iraq war.
I used to admire him but what he says now means nothing.
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Fri Oct-17-08 01:57 PM
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41. Sadly, I think so too. n/t |
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Fri Oct-17-08 09:53 PM
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oh wait...that was dinner.
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Fri Oct-17-08 09:54 PM
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44. He's going to endorse Bob Barr. |
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Fri Oct-17-08 10:07 PM
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Fri Oct-17-08 09:57 PM
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45. what does he get out of endorsing McCain ? especially now ? |
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it's so likely that McCain will lose.
i can't see why an endorsement from Powell will change anything. especially since he isn't as popular now as he was before.
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Fri Oct-17-08 10:06 PM
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I remember the good side of Colin Powell and the bashing done to him by DUers makes me sick. Perhaps many of you are too young to remember what Colin Powell has done for this country while in uniform; or that he was given falsified information from Bush, thinking the information he had was truly what was going on, and defended Bush's tactics in the UN. When Powell found out how he had been duped by Bush, he left the Bush Administration.
Colin Powell can help bring in the military and veteran vote for Senator Obama. Do not forget troops are donating 5-1 for Senator Obama in this election. Military people, as a rule, still have a great deal of respect for Powell. And I, as an elderly white female, respect Colin Powell. It is sad that so many of you cannot. You are doing the same thing that you accuse the McCain camp of doing - spreading half-truths and mis-truths. You should be ashamed of yourselves. Have any of you led the perfect life? Have any of you made mistakes you have regretted? Keep throwing stones, but watch out for the ricocheting ones that come back and hit you in the face.
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Fri Oct-17-08 10:13 PM
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48. The way I see it is if Colin endourses McCain, no big deal, it is what is expected. On the other |
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hand, if he endourses Obama, then it is a big deal.
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Fri Oct-17-08 11:28 PM
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There is no reason why this would be such a speculative issue for the heads if they didn't see something newsworthy coming from it. And since Obama has been spankin' McP, another nail in the coffin isn't all that newsworthy.
The only think that gives me any hope is the Drudge pictorial smear.
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Fri Oct-17-08 11:33 PM
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50. I predict Obama will invite Powell to a rally, thinking he'll endorse him. |
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Edited on Fri Oct-17-08 11:34 PM by Walter Sobchak
They'll get up onstage together and Obama will introduce him. Then, while acting like he's walking up to the microphone, Powell will grab a folding chair and bash Obama over the head with it.
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Fri Oct-17-08 11:34 PM
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51. I agree...when you start hearing republicans say they think "Powell will |
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endorse Obama", and as Bachman said on Larry King (paraphrasing) that "whoever he endorses, it will be a great benefit to that candidates campaign"...you know it's coming. He will endorse McCain.
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Fri Oct-17-08 11:37 PM
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52. I know a lot of us don't like Powell but he will not endorse McLame as a trick |
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I'm sorry, he is not buddies with the neocons, he faught with them in the Whitehouse. He also sold out and let himself tell lies on behalf of the neocons instead of quitting and walking away which was the right thing to do. I think he is honestly conflicted. He has know McInsane for years but could be excited by Obama. Interesting to watch and see what happens. His endorsement means nothing to us but would be a slap in McInsane's face.
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Fri Oct-17-08 11:40 PM
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53. No way Powell endorses McCain. Not after all the stuff that has gone down. |
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And not after seeing the sad state of the Republican party now. They are only preaching to the "base". The "base" that still considers Powell just another N****r, no matter what his accomplishments.
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Fri Oct-17-08 11:41 PM
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54. The MSM is making a big deal out of it, for ratings. |
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If Powell endorsed Obama, it would be nice. If he endorses McCain, it will be 24 hours of news about it... mostly because he's a famous black republican... they can frame a story about black guy who isn't for Obama.
In the end though, it doesn't matter. No point in worrying about it. Just keep up with whatever all we're doing. Let Powell do whatever turns him on...
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