It just doesn't add up

[Proud_Lefty]

Can someone help me figure this out how Bush can be 11% AHEAD of Kerry.

Take all the registered voters and then subtract the groups that would never vote for George Bush this November:

The already committed Democrats;
The newly committed Democrats;
The large number of black voters;
The majority of gays;
The majority of the people who saw F9-11;
The majority of the environmentalists;
The majority of the pro-choice advocates
Families whose military child or spouse was recently killed or injured;
The people who cannot find jobs and watched them go overseas
The majority of the people who can't get healthcare;
The people who care about our economy
The people who educate themselves to know the truth about our country.

There are several other groups I'm sure you can add that Bush has alienated.

Aside from pure manipulation of the press, how can Bush have a 53% approval rating at this time? Something smells awfully foul!

[mhr]

1. There Is But One Answer - Mind Control

eom

[Proud_Lefty]

11. Bingo!

If Fox News could call the 2000 election and get all the other cable news networks to retract their reports of Gore winning, they could certainly convince us that their own Republican Convention was an absolute success, produced amazing numbers and Kerry can just forget it.

Reality - the Republican Convention was filled with subliminal messages and disgusting negativity. A grand plan for the future was promised by the very person who had no plan over the past four years and broke almost every promise he did make during that time. Several people told me the chants of the delegates eerily reminded them of "Hail Hilter".

[lancdem]

2. He's not even close to 11 points ahead

those polls oversampled Repukes.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

3. I think most Americans refuste to participate in phone polls.

Many only have cell phones. Response rates have fallen to the point where these polls are only of limited value.

[redstateblues]

8. I don't pick up my phone if I don't recognize the # on caller ID

[LibDemAlways]

4. Time and Newsweek

sampled disproportionate numbers of repukes. It's as simple as that.

[shockingelk]

12. well, I don't think that's true

Compare to the same polls at the time the media had Kerry's campaign messages running all day - his lead was approximately the same as Jr's:



A large advantage for Bush is what you'd expect, based on the large advantage to Kerry during his nominating convention.

Also note that a few posters polled during Bush's convention blitz instead of near it.

Unless Bush has figured out a way to make the artificial boost stick, the lead will evaporate.

[Freddie Stubbs]

5. What about

Pro-life Democrats;
Pro-gun Democrats;
Democrats with Confederate flags in the back of their pick up trucks?

Just because someone is registered as a Democrat doesn't mean that they vote that way. Western Pennsylvania has a lot of Democrats, but they keep dending Republicans (Phil English, Melissa Hart) back to Congress.

[are_we_united_yet]

6. I have an answer:

In the spirit of Animal House:

cough cough ...bullshit... cough

[zulchzulu]

7. Repugs praising the Time poll will soon hate the next Time poll

The recent Time poll was faulty in many respects, but especially with a MOE (margin of error) of 4%, which most serious pollsters would find not good enough.

Let the Repugs bask in the poll because next week, when the poll reflects more like all the well-done polls, the numbers will show the race is even.

Then the media spin will be "how did Bush lose 10% points in one week?"

[nikatnyte]

9. Also what about

Newly eligible young voters whose favorite musicians are all stumping against Bush? (It's safe to say they're listening to Green Card's "American Idiot" and not Brooks & Dunn)

Majority of Latino voters, and those of any other ethnic minority (there were several slams against Bush on the Latino Grammys the other day)

Any self-respecting woman who sees the overt patronization to women from the repugs (as well as the offensive "girlie-man" comments)

[Lydia Leftcoast]

10. Three points

1) For a while, I participated in Zogby polls. They let you look at the cumulative results after you've filled out their questionnaire, and they ALWAYS over-sampled Republicans.

2) Throughout Ronald Reagan's two miserable terms, the newspapers kept raving about how he was "the most popular president of the postwar era." It was only after he was safely out of office that the New York Times said, in effect, "Guess what, folks. We lied about that."

3) Up until the day of Election 2000, the polls had Bush winning the popular vote.

[Art_from_Ark]

13. Yeah, all those polls had bu$h winning the popular vote

by a comfortable margin, with some on-line polls showing 61-39%! And you're also right about Reagan-- the media pumped him up like a Thanksgiving Day Parade balloon.