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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:01 PM Original message |
Palin's RNC Shopping Spree Violates McCain-Feingold Act |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
1. Holy shit, that's the ultimate embarrassment for McCain.... |
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ShadowLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
18. It sure is, we need this on the news NOW, no more 'questionable legality' claims about the clothing |
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Tigress DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:26 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. I would LIKE to agree, but they skirted the issue. RNC is not tax deductable. |
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Loge23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 03:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
54. I get that impression also |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
2. Send it to KO and Rachel make it viral. |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-24-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
74. To be honest, I'm surprised the likes of KO or RM weren't immediately aware of this |
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mallOUf (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
3. Rut Rohhhh..nt |
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BanzaiBonnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:07 PM Original message |
mallOUF, welcome to DU |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
4. Does this apply to RNC funds, |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:05 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Only candidate campaign funds...which is why the RNC did this...nt |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. I'm just a simple caveman lawyer |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:10 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. May not be true, but true "enough" for a robo-call!!!! |
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life_long_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
31. Joe the caveman lawyer. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 06:12 AM Response to Reply #9 |
46. LOL! It's certainly truer than most of the things the McCain Palin campaign throws out there. |
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redstate_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
26. It appears so. |
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David Dunham (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
5. This regulation seems to apply to individual candidates not the RNC or DNC |
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redstate_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
21. Would this section have any bearing on your conclusion? |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #21 |
33. I added that to the OP thanks..... seems that sort of sums it up |
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klyon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-24-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #21 |
67. What is the penalty for this? |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
6. Interesting |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
8. Laws don't apply to Republicans. |
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Tigress DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:28 PM Response to Reply #8 |
29. McCain types make laws AND loopholes. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
10. EXCELLENT FIND! |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
11. Dupe |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
13. It doesn't matter what will happen to it later, what matters is what money was used to buy it now. |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
14. I believe it was Lawrence O'Donnell who brought this up on MSNBC earlier. |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
15. Good catch. |
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Mariana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
16. Do you really believe that McCain wrote this law, |
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dchill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:23 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. Good point - he IS still making use of the wife's... |
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jeanmarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
17. The amounts spent were excessive...but.... |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
19. forwarding far and wide. I may also make an article out of this. Would that be OK? |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:19 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. No problem spread around its from the government site |
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sohndrsmith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
22. Very well done. Especially in that you included specific legal wording |
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dchill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
23. What we are going to see is a W I D E interpretetion... |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
24. does that mean that they are disqualified from the race? |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
27. I wish Norm Coleman would be held to his questionable contributions too. |
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Historic NY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
30. They're Republicans they can do anything..the"rule of law" does not pertain to them. |
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bushisanidiot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
32. Brilliant Find!! McHate is a complete and total hypocrite!! |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
34. Holy... |
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Melinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
35. Sorry, but this doesn't apply. The out: "...shall not be converted by any person to personal use." |
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dbmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 12:11 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Yep. |
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redstate_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 12:14 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Is clothing for her kids and husband not personal? |
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Melinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 01:42 AM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Not in this instance... (uuuuh - underwear?) |
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klyon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-24-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #44 |
69. I imagine all these items can be sold on e-bay at a profit after |
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Blue Diadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 06:21 AM Response to Reply #35 |
48. It would be illegal if it came from McCain's campaign fund, but because the RNC |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #35 |
50. So Palin is considered a non-person, a prop, of the campaign? nt |
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Melinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #50 |
59. No, just her 150k wardrobe... the one she's never previously bought for herself. eom |
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JPZenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #35 |
52. So as long as she only wears the clothes to rallies, its OK? |
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Melinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 06:10 PM Response to Reply #52 |
60. Yes. as long as she wears the wardrobe while campaiging... I'd like to see the receipts to check ... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #35 |
56. Paragraph 2 says it shall be considered to be converted to personal use |
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Melinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 06:07 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. In this instance, clothing isn't clothing & campaign expenses aren't normal personal expenses.... |
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Essene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #35 |
62. exactly. there is no violation going by that clause |
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FLyellowdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
36. Actually, Palin violates her act as a decent human being. |
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Undercurrent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-22-08 11:56 PM Response to Original message |
37. Loophole? |
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davidpdx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
38. Someone needs to blog this and then put it on Digg |
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davidpdx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 12:41 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. According to Ben Smith, he consulted an elections law expert |
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genna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 01:20 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. What was the intent of the law in the first place? Why is it alright for the party but not for the |
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mwei924 (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 12:43 AM Response to Original message |
42. Don't you know? |
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KnaveRupe (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 06:08 AM Response to Original message |
45. You gotta wear fancy clothes to be a Maverick!!!! |
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npincus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 06:20 AM Response to Original message |
47. HA HA... sent link to OP to Huffpo |
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babsbunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
49. Feingold should get on the T.V. machine and say something! |
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elbram (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-24-08 11:57 AM Response to Reply #49 |
72. I hope Feingold submits to remove McCain from the title |
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Poiuyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
51. Great catch! |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
53. K&R! Failin, the gift that keeps giving. |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
55. K & R! This is too rich! |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
57. CREW says the clothing purchases violate the Federal Election Campaign Act, |
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livetohike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-23-08 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
61. K & R |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-24-08 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
63. We need to say it loud and often |
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shagsak (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-24-08 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
64. Oops! |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-24-08 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
65. see the problem with things like this |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-24-08 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
66. Error: you can only recommend threads which were started in the past 24 hours |
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bobd0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-24-08 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
68. Juan Cole is all over this today. |
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elbram (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-24-08 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
70. ...not sure why I am surprised |
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meow2u3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-24-08 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
71. McLamebrain broke his own law! |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-24-08 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
73. The language is plain and simple |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-24-08 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
75. ROFL . . . now THAT's funny! . . . n/t |
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