Kind of funny how the Freepers are still blabbering about Obama Birth Certificate....

[RollWithIt]

OMG, Google!

From the LA Times:

[seabeyond]

1. hey is just two months older than me cool. funny repugs huh? n/t

[AspenRose]

2. "African" isn't a race, though

:shrug:

[scheming daemons]

3. At that time, Hawaii recorded whatever the parents wrote on the application

[rufus dog]

16. and there is no "official" seal

and he was born in Kenya, then rushed back to Hawaii to get a certificate - it is true, his grandma said so
and his mom was only 18 and didn't live in the US for five years before 21 so there he can't be president.

Got an email from one of these wingnuts, another guy provided the snopes link. Not good enough.

I responded with this scenario:

Sarah Palin will not release her medical records. Is it because she has:
Terminated pregnancies?
Was not pregnant in the last five years?
Has STDs?
Has undergone a lot of cosmetic surgery?
Or all of the above?

And ask him if he gets it?

He responded that I am picking on Sarah and why would there be a lawsuit in Philly if it wasn't true. At that point I could waste another five minutes responding to his lack of logic or call him a nut, I called him a nut!

[HockeyMom]

4. They should see MINE if they think his is invalid

My official (state seal) BC just has my name, date of birth, and state of birth. It doesn't list the names of my parents. All the originals of my and my parents BC were lost in 1952 by the VA. The only thing that exists is the listing in the Birth Index File which doesn't record the parents of the individual.

I had a lot of trouble getting a passport in 1976. It tooks months for it all to be checked and vertified. When I went back in 2007 to get a new passport, I was told that I probably would not have been able to get a passport in today's world unless I had been issued that one in 1976.

I guess I can never run for the Presidency with my Birth Certificate.

[rzemanfl]

8. No offense, but I have a thing about hockey moms and the

Presidency anyway. Some states have laws that allow a judge to order a Birth Certificate issued. I used the Wisconsin law to get birth certificates for three children who were born at home in Canada while their parents were living there under assumed names to avoid prosecution in Wisconsin. The Judge didn't know he could do that until I showed him the law. The INS agreed they were U.S. Citizens after seeing the kids, their mother and the court orders.

[No Elephants]

11. I have no idea what you are trying to say.

[rzemanfl]

15. 1) No hockey Moms in the White House. 2) She might be able

to get a Judge to certify the information on her birth certificate that is missing due to the fire, e.g., parents' names.

[rzemanfl]

5. It says "ANY ALTERATIONS INVALIDATE THIS CERTIFICATE"

and the Certificate Number is blacked out!!!!!!!1111 OMG!!!! Plus, also too, it is only prima facie evidence!!!!111 This is HUGH!11 I'm series!

[Fire1]

12. Who is HUGH?????

[rzemanfl]

14. A freeper typo famous at DU. Welcome by the way. eom

[MH1]

6. Just point them to one of their own sites

Ed Morrissey at Hot Air says it's bs too:

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/12/obama-is-an-american-no-really/

Seriously, he'll carry more weight with these people than just the simple facts.

[tabatha]

9. I came across this post on another site:

1) The order filed by Berg requesting certain items regarding Obama’s citizenship is a BLANK ORDER. It’s not signed by the court’s judge (Surrick). It’s common practice for attorneys to draft up orders in their favor so all the judge has to do is sign it if he/she grants the attorney’s wishes. However, the court already DENIED Berg’s first motion back in August <1>, and Berg submitted another motion asking Obama and the DNC to submit documents by October 15th. This motion is moot because the judge has NOT signed it and will most likely dismiss it (again) for reasons I explained earlier (Berg lacks legal standing to sue Obama). It’s kinda like your neighbor pulling you over for speeding - he has no standing to do this! Plus judges tend to brush off pro se lawyers, especially in frivolous cases such as this.

2) Many of you have asked why doesn’t Obama just show up at court with his birth certificate? Berg’s motions are explicit and in a matter of law, if his motion was granted, Obama would have to produce exactly the documents requested. However, a “vault” copy of a birth certificate from Hawaii is NEVER released because it is a vital record protected by statute. So when any citizen orders a birth certificate from the Dept of Health (DOH) in Hawaii <2>, he/she is given a Certificate of Live Birth (COLB), which Obama has already made public. The whole notion that Berg used the testimony of “independent forensic experts” who labeled it a “forgery” based on an online picture is ludicrous. How can anyone to determine whether a document is forged or not from a picture on a website? The COLB with the raised seal was authenticated by both the DOH of Hawaii (who obviously seen it in person!) and the US State Dept <3> and is proof enough for the DNC, FEC, INS, US State Dept, and the Senate that Obama is a natural-born citizen of the USA!

3) The other items are irrelevant as a certificate of citizenship and oath of allegiance only apply to naturalized citizens. And for the record, Obama did not “lose” his US citizenship when he lived in Indonesia because immigration laws clearly state a citizen retains his citizenship while living abroad as long as he returns to the US and retains permanent residence before age 25. Obama returned to Hawaii before high school. Besides, it is almost impossible to lose your citizenship!

These are the facts. Whether you choose to believe them I’ll leave up to you pundits to decide.

References:
<1> http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/4/

<2> http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/vital_records.html

<3> http://www.state.gov/m/a/auth/c16920.htm

[Arctic Dave]

7. I was getting my hair cut at my local barber that I have

going to for years. There were a couple of older men talking about this. I shook my head real slightly and laughed under my breath because I couldn't help thinking that if they are STILL talking about this, it is because they have zilch going for them as a party. No canidates, no ideas. So sad and pathetic.

[johnnydrama]

10. Obama is such an evil genius

He gave himself the middle name Hussein cause noone would ever believe he'd fake his BC with Hussein on it as his middle name.

In fact, even if the birth certificate is totally fake, I want such a genius in the White House...

LOL

[budkin]

13. This is the last hope they have... aka. NONE