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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 01:54 AM
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Navajos Snub McCain For Obama
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 01:56 AM
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1. Good to hear. A lot of folks are coming out for Obama.
He has a good spirit and it attracts people.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 01:59 AM
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2. McCain is Senator for part of their Nation. They give good reasons for the "snub", too.
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 02:04 AM
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3. It's very wonderful news.
Edited on Fri Oct-24-08 02:21 AM by political_Dem
But, where do you stand on the Cherokee Nation's http://www.rachelstavern.com/?p=431">attempt to drop Black Cherokees from their tribe? After all, they are descendants of Freedmen and of the Cherokee nation.

I am curious what you think about this matter. The Navajos' position (which was explicitly stated in their endorsement) on this issue was very interesting.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 03:01 AM
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8. I hate that they are trying to drop the Black Cherokees.
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 05:13 AM
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12. I just wanted to hear another take on this issue.
Edited on Fri Oct-24-08 05:17 AM by political_Dem
But, I agree that it is a very sad situation all around.

Now, I will truly slink back into lurkdom. ;)
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 02:19 AM
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4. K & R!
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 02:38 AM
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5. politicaldem - I remember posting the story but have forgotten the
particulars about the Black Cherokees, Will try to find out from my Navajo correspondent.
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 02:46 AM
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6. Thank you, Bobbie O.
Edited on Fri Oct-24-08 02:48 AM by political_Dem
I appreciate that profusely. :)

I meant no disrespect bringing up this issue. I just wanted to hear another side on this matter. I look forward to what your Navajo Correspondent has to say. :D

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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 02:55 AM
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7. PolDem - I remember one story that was posted some time ago that was
Edited on Fri Oct-24-08 02:56 AM by Bobbieo
not mentioned in DU -In fact, there were several mentions at the time from different groups. Wlll get back to you -!!!
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 03:13 AM
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9. PolDem - Didn't the court rule in favor of the Black Cherokees and resolve the issue. Think that
Edited on Fri Oct-24-08 03:21 AM by Bobbieo
info came from Kathy Guthrie of the FCNL - a Quaker Lobby.How do I feel? I personally agree with the court that ruled in favor of the Freedman. Somehow, I have a gut feeling this was all tied to casino money that no one wants to discuss. Just my opinion!!!
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 04:51 AM
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11. Yes and no. The issue, imho, is quite complicated.
Edited on Fri Oct-24-08 05:01 AM by political_Dem
First of all, I thank you, Bobbie O, for your input and information on this matter. As stated in my first comment, I share in your joy about the Navajos endorsing Mr. Obama. I truly believe that Mr. Obama will do his best to carry out the concerns of Native American people in the same way that I hope he would be concerned about all of us as citizens.

I appreciate your response and yes, I agree that this entire thing is mainly about money. But, I also feel it has to do, regrettably, with race too.

And even though I understand the issue is very complex, I feel that if the Freedmen involved do share ancestry with the Cherokee nation, they should be counted along with other members who also share that same common ancestry. If they are not, then they would be denied a part of their family and their identity.

And yes, in 2006, the courts did rule in favor of the Freedmen. But, the Cherokee Nation had put the decision to a vote, and decided to deny membership to the Freedmen descendants.

The way I understand it the Congressional Black Caucus asked the Bureau of Indian Affairs to investigate the issue in 2007. Around the same time, a bill was authored to strip the Cherokee Nation of funding if they did not include the Freedmen among the Cherokee Nation.

And then, in 2008, this is the latest development from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherokee_freedmen_controversy">wikipedia:

On September 26, 2008, Congress cleared the housing bill H.R. 2786. This bill, the reauthorization of the Native American Housing and Self-Determination Act, includes a provision stating that the Cherokee Nation can receive federal housing benefits as long as a tribal court order allowing the citizenship for Cherokee Freedmen descendants is intact or some settlement is reached in the citizenship issue and litigation involving the Cherokee Freedmen descendants <62>.

The House Of Representatives version of the bill would have denied funds unless the Freedmen descendants were restored to citizenship. The Senate version of the bill had no mention of the Cherokee Nation or the Cherokee Freedmen.


I do not know what the latest answer to this action was. That is why I wanted to hear your take of what was truly going on with this issue.

Again, I really appreciate your response. It has given me more to think about in this issue. I have also bookmarked your blog and look forward to reading other news about Native American life, culture and politics. :)

Now I will truly sit back and read the other responses. ;)







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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 03:14 AM
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10. OF COURSE!!!! All us injuns love us a
Buffalo Soldier. ;)
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