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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:42 AM
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GOP's fear: "Obama will remake American political landscape with more ease than Reagan in 1980"
Senior Republicans Warn Of GOP Civil War

Telegraph | Tim Shipman | October 25, 2008 07:53 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/25/senior-republicans-warn-o_n_137866.html



Aides to George W.Bush, former Reagan White House staff and friends of John McCain have all told The Sunday Telegraph that they not only expect to lose on November 4, but also believe that Mr Obama is poised to win a crushing mandate.

They believe he will be powerful enough to remake the American political landscape with even more ease than Ronald Reagan did in 1980.

Read the whole story here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/3260074/Republican-fears-of-historic-Obama-landslide-unleash-civil-war-for-the-future-of-the-party.html

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:44 AM
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1. Thanks for posting this story...I sure hope the repukes are right about
Obama changing the landscape..

and..that is a fantastic picture. It looks like a LeRoy Neiman painting.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:47 AM
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2. Thank you...it's my "Secret Photoshop Formula." And I am a life-long Neiman fan.
I do think the "senior Republicans" are right. After 8 years of George W. Bush, Obama will reconstruct the American political landscape in a way that will dwarf the efforts of their beloved Saint Ronnie.

:patriot:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:54 AM
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5. I cannot believe that they think that the barracuda could be the next Reagan!!!
I am starting to feel so optimistic about the changes that Obama can bring, not only to this country, but to the world...and the place of the US in the world.
I know that the entire world will be VERY disappointed if Barack Obama is not the next President of the US...and there will be worldwide celebrating when his victory is announced. We can all feel part of the same planet again...


What ever your secret, it produces really great results. Do you have any other examples of your work?
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 01:02 AM
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7. They thought Fred Thompson was going to be the next Reagan...
...and we all know where that got them.

Here is a Photoshopped picture of a woman I have grown to know and love, DU's own "hisownpetard" (she supplied the photo):



...she really is amazing, one of those "It is a gift to know you" kinds of people. The antithesis of Sarah Palin...beauty from the inside out and then back in again.

...and Canada College in Redwood City, CA (my photo, rendered in Photoshop):



:toast:

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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 01:08 AM
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9. George (macaca) Allen was "Reaganesque" too.
Why not just dig up the original and have a
Week-end at Bernie's election?
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 01:14 AM
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11. The difference between ANY 2008 GOP contender...
...and Barack Obama...

...is that the GOP politicians want to be "Reagan" or a throwback to some ideal that never really existed in the first place.

OBAMA wants to confront the issues KILLING the average working-class American head-on, and provide SOLUTIONS.

It won't be easy. George W. Bush is going to be leaving one hell of a legendary MESS behind, just as he's done throughout his life, from Arbusto to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

But Obama won't do it alone, and he won't enlist the aid of the corrupt and incompetent cronies of his dad.

He will sign up anyone and everyone with the talent and level of commitment to make America GREAT again.

I can't WAIT to see DU in December 2008...January, February, March 2009...the enerhy, the passion, the intensity, the optimism.

:patriot:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 01:26 AM
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16. and he will request, and receive the help of the other nations of the world.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 01:35 AM
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18. One of the single most infuriating aspects of the Bush presidency...
...is the way that he THREW AWAY the world's post-9/11 support.

If you've seen recent GLOBAL "approval ratings" for Obama, they are THROUGH THE ROOF.

If a snake bites you, and you suck out the poison, you can get on with your life.

The Bush snake is a couple of weeks away from crawling back into its hole.

:patriot:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 01:25 AM
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14. GREAT Pictures. I love your work...
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 01:32 AM
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17. Thank you VERY much. If there's such a thing as a labor of love, it's my work.
I'm lucky, I'm blessed.

:toast:
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 01:09 AM
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10. Awe
"Secret Photoshop Formula" :cry:

Whisper it to me in a pm I promise I won't reveal it.
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jasonberlin Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 04:40 PM
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21. Ooh!
Me too me too please, if you don't mind! It looks awesome!
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:50 AM
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3. How about putting some of them in federal prison?
Edited on Sun Oct-26-08 12:58 AM by Graybeard
That will "remake the landscape" alright, seeing it from behind bars!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:50 AM
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4. David Frum's picture is in the dictionary when you look up "HYPOCRITE"
David Frum, a former Bush speechwriter, told The Sunday Telegraph that Republicans should now concentrate all their fire on "the need for balanced government".

"It's hard to see a turnaround in the White House race," he said. "This could look like an ideological as well as a party victory if we're not careful. It could be 1980 in reverse.

"With this huge new role for federal government in the economy, the possibility for mischief making is very, very great. One man should not have a monopoly of political and financial power. That's very dangerous."



He did not seem to apprehend this danger when it was the repukes who had total control of Congress and the White House, and proceeded to try to control the Supreme Court as well...
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:55 AM
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6. "filibuster - talking until legislation runs out of time"
Actually, these days Senators can filibuster without having to talk for hours.
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 01:06 AM
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8. Reagan remade the political landscape
because, for good or ill, the will was there to do it. It was the zeitgeist of that era.

Now the republicans are facing the same inevitability because Obama is a catalyst, albeit a powerful one, and he will be riding a will for change as deep if not deeper than Reagan's.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 01:20 AM
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13. When you have Palin out on the stump blaming Bush for the current situation...
...it does not bode well for four more years of Republican rule.

My favorite moment of Thursday night's Tina Fey-Will Ferrell SNL skit was when Fey blurted out "16 years."

"AS IF."

:rofl:
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 09:23 AM
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20. k/r
kick
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 01:16 AM
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12. This is an extraordinary moment in history ....
"He (Jim Nuzzo) told The Sunday Telegraph: "There's going to be a bloodbath. A lot of people are going to be excommunicated. David Brooks and David Frum and Peggy Noonan are dead people in the Republican Party. The litmus test will be: where did you stand on Palin?"

(But) Mr Frum thinks that Mrs Palin's brand of cultural conservatism appeals only to a dwindling number of voters.

He said: "She emerges from this election as the probable frontrunner for the 2012 nomination. Her supporters vastly outnumber her critics. But it will be extremely difficult for her to win the presidency."

Mr Nuzzo, who believes this election is not a re-run of the 1980 Reagan revolution but of 1976, when an ageing Gerald Ford lost a close contest and then ceded the leadership of the Republican Party to Mr Reagan.

He said: "Win or lose, there is a ready made conservative candidate waiting in the wings. Sarah Palin is not the new Iain Duncan Smith, she is the new Ronald Reagan." On the accuracy of that judgment, perhaps, rests the future of the Republican Party. "


No ... Palin 2012 is no Ronald Reagan .... Reagan was known, rightly or wrongly, as a great communicator ... Palin could not talk her way out of a second grade english class ....

I can state with extreme prejudice: The republican party has earned it's place in the wilderness ... Let's hope they select Palin in 2012 AND 2016 ...

Ronald Reagan my ass ....
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 01:26 AM
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15. "In North Carolina, where Senator Elizabeth Dole seems set to loose"
Elizabeth Dole is set to "loose".. loose what? The hounds?

Editor? Editor?
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 01:36 AM
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19. Nothing "too loose" about Liddy Dole.
Her face is pulled as tight as a drum.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:03 PM
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22. Ew.
I originally thought you were going somewhere else with that.
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