Where is Obama's team of lawyers? Vote flipping in WV, TN, TX, and now MO, ALL D to R

[BzaDem]

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6559

"This is just getting worse and worse. Now it's happening in Texas. (And in MO, if you read to the end of the article). And the vaunted "thousands of attorneys" from the Obama campaign and the DNC are still nowhere to be found.

With every incident so far reported of touch-screen vote-flipping during early voting in this year's general election --- from county to county in WV and in Nashville, TN) --- it's been the ES&S iVotronic touch-screen machine that has failed, flipping votes from one candidate to another not chosen by the voter. In every instance , it's been an attempted Democratic vote, flipped to a Republican, or another party.

These are the same machines that lost 18,000 votes in Democratic-leaning Sarasota County in the 2006 U.S. House Race for Katherine Harris' old seat. The Democrat, Christine Jennings, was declared the loser to Republican Vern Buchanan (whose own wife had trouble voting for him that day), by just 369 votes. Several academic studies, and even the GAO, have been unable to rule out either tampering or hardware/software error for the disappeared 18,000 votes.

"

[Thrill]

1. In Missouri too? Damn it sounds like these fuckers are going to steal it again

[EFerrari]

2. That's a very good question. The problems are being reported.

Where are the Obama lawyers? Where is the DNC?

:kick:

[diva77]

8. Some of us in CA discussed 3 yrs. ago what legal options we had and here are

the choices we came up with at the time:

civil grand jury (seems like best choice),
criminal grand jury (unlikely
unless DA backs it up),
civil law suit (too expensive),
civil action with writ of mandamus

So I, too, would like to know what the Obama lawyers hope to accomplish!

[BrklynLiberal]

3. Send the info to Obama's site. There are address there you can use..

[NYC_SKP]

4. Not this time.

Thanks for the heads up. Recommended.

[still_one]

5. All I know is if Obama doesn't win, especially because of voting irregularities

I will be done with the Democratic party

They will have screwed my kid's future, social security, healthcare, and medicare, and endless war

It better NOT happen

[CreekDog]

16. okay, if the Democrats lose due to voting irregularities, you will punish Democrats

well that makes sense. :banghead:

[Bonn1997]

18. Yes, the Dems have a responsibility to FIGHT

against election fraud. If they sit back and watch the election be stolen for a third time in a row, they will have done a lot of damage to our hopes of having a democracy. No, not as much damage as the Republicans but they inability (or lack of willpower) to fight fraud still will have damaged the country. Every day I hope Obama's response to fraud will be better than Gore's and Kerry's.

[CreekDog]

22. Dems have been fighting, look at Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, etc.

they are absolutely fighting back.

[Bonn1997]

20. When I give money and volunteer time to the Dem candidate...

in each campaign, it's with the implicit assumption/hope that this time they won't let me down and won't give in to election fraud. There's only so many times you can be let down before you give up on a party. Now, I'll give everything I can for Obama (and I'll be driving 3 hrs each way to volunteer in Pensacola this coming weekend), but you can be let down only so many times before you stop trying.

[Jennicut]

23. Okay, how do you know he isn't on top of this?

Like Obama WANTS to lose. If you are that sensitiive, maybe its time to stop voting and being a part of the election process. Obama is the most agressive candidate we have ever had in fighting election fraud.

[Bonn1997]

27. I don't know and never said I did know. We'll find out on 11/5

[CreekDog]

31. how about we'll find out now?

before you cast asparagus on our guy, his lawyers just made the Republican poll watchers in Florida soil their shorts.

[Bonn1997]

37. I think you have me confused with someone else

I didn't say Obama was failing or would fail

[CreekDog]

41. didn't mistake you at all, was referring to your message upthread

and all i was criticizing is the casting of aspersions when those things weren't true.

[Ikonoklast]

42. Your Logic Is Infallible.

:crazy:

[NYC_SKP]

6. What to do, tell every voter you know in these states to read the article, and..

These are among the steps recommended, with which I strongly concur:

* Call poll supervisors to observe the problem
* Fill out a problem report
* Refuse to vote on that machine
* Request that the machine be taken out of service
* Get a serial number of the machine if possible (may be unlikely in many cases)
* Tell other voters not to vote on that machine
* Call county/town election office
* Call local reporters
* Call voter problem hotlines (eg. 866-MYVOTE1 and 866-OUR-VOTE)
* Contact bloggers and Election Integrity websites.
* Raise holy hell.

:patriot:

[tblue]

12. ***Take a fucking can of Coke and pour it on the machine!***

[rcrush]

7. Does it force them to vote republican?

If someone sees their machine switch their vote what do they do? Just accept it and finish voting? Cant you just keep trying until you finally hit democrat? Cant you just stop voting and call someone over and say "Hey this is broken?" and use another machine? Are they saying they were forced to vote republican?

[WinkyDink]

25. Do you not grasp the FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE here??

[rcrush]

36. It was just a question. n/t

[AllentownJake]

9. Other than MO

You are talking about all certain Red States by the Obama's campaign estimation. I'm in PA. The Lawyers arrived yesterday...and they are bad ass.

[diva77]

11. "they are bad ass" -- please elaborate!

:hi:

[stolivodka]

10. I wish I was one of those "thousands of lawyers"

..who presumably get paid for doing nothing. Why isn't Team Obama all over this crap? This is real, dammit!

[goclark]

13. My friend was a "volunteer" for the Primary

and will probably volunteer again.

In the Primary when Randell was surpressing votes in Philly the lawyers arrived way to late to stop most of it.

Hopefully this will be a better approach.

:scared:

[NavyDavy]

14. bunch of concern trolls......if Obama doesn't do this or do that

I am done with the Dem party blah blah blah!!!! volunteer to be a poll worker have the numbers for the DNC and Obama Campaighn programmed on your cell phones or written done for quick action.....and don't let the repuke workers intimidate you as so many Dem voulunteers have in the past....eom

[stolivodka]

15. Learn to read.

You might not be a concern troll, but you sure are sounding like a regular one.

[CreekDog]

17. agreed, i'm so tired of that crap

Obama has run a masterful campaign from nearly top to bottom and folks still don't think the guy can even tie his shoes without their advice. i'm pissed at some people here that are doing that. :rant:

[BumRushDaShow]

19. Why is it that the states and DNC are given a pass?

The governors of WV and TN are DEMOCRATS. What are those states doing? Why is it that Superman Obama ALWAYS has to leap tall buildings in a single bound while the state Democratic party machines and the DNC and the relevent Democratic SOSs sit back in idle (or so we are lead to believe)?

[Bonn1997]

21. That's a great question

I wonder if these state governors have been compromised. (I'm sure nothing would ever be stated this explicitly but the idea would be, "look the other way and we'll make sure you don't lose your Gubernatorial election.")

MAYBE HAVING COMPROMISED DEMS RUNNING A FEW SWING STATES IS MORE VALUABLE TO DIEBOLD THAN HAVING ALL REPUBLICANS! Just a hypothesis. We'll find out soon.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

26. Agreed! I don't trust Ed Rendell at all. I've seen his dirty work before, and his behavior

during the primaries was despicable. Why didn't HE make sure everything was set to go in PA? What is HE doing? What are the other Democratic governors doing to ensure the integrity of the election?

[BumRushDaShow]

30. Fast Eddie was an ass during the primaries but he won't let PA go to McKKKlan.

Remember 2006 and how Santorum and 4 repuke Congressman were ceremoniously booted out of office, the most of any state during the 2006 Democratic rout.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

43. Yes, I agree, but he was so passionate about Hillary Clinton. Would he allow Obama to lose PA

so that she can run again if Obama loses, period?

[martymar64]

24. The Rethugs do this at their own peril

Obama is way away, so an "upset" for McGoo would simply not be credible. The evidence is piling up and they risk a possibly violent backlash if they steal this election.
Imagine L.A. style riots all over the country. Not even a combat brigade would be able to stop it.
In times like this, my sig line applies.

[tomp]

29. this is my feeling as well.

i fully expect poll problems and litigation post-election. if obama is not announced the winner on wednesday, I think violence will be inevitable. frankly, i favor the white house sit-in by millions, but i suspect some people will have other ideas. the only question is, do the republicans expect to steal it knowing it will lead to violence, or are they just trying to steal it?

[no_hypocrisy]

28. 1 don't understand why both these measures aren't taken ASAP:

1. When the first vote flips, why the machine isn't sequestered and taken out of service and alternative means of voting offered like a paper ballot in a locked box.

2. Why Obama's campaign hasn't filed the first lawsuit about this already.

[stillcool]

32. I wish people would stop expecting..

the Senator from Illinois to march into their state and fix their voting systems. Whose votes are they anyway?

[DeschutesRiver]

33. Saw a story on this - seems the voter can complain, and the people

at the polling place come help them fix it, is that correct? That the vote hasn't been cast at the vote-flipping point, because they haven't done a final step??? So the "flip" can be caught and corrected? I vote by mail, so I've never used a machine.

Early on, I did hear of some votes flipping from McCain to Obama. I wonder - are these machines just too touch sensitive, so they are flipping all votes, but the only reason we are hearing about so many Obama to McCain flips lately is that nobody is voting for McCain at all right now?

Whatever the answers are, I hope either the voting irregularities are no greater than the usual human error factor, or that if they are, Obama has people all over this like flies on you know what.

[debbierlus]

35. It isn't innocent - it is ALWAYS 100% Obama flipped to McCain

If it was a simple machine error, it would go both ways.

It is rigged. 100% of the time, in every fucking election, it is ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS, Democrat flipping to Repuke...

And, lost votes.

And, terrorist threats that ban observers from polling places.

[seabeyond]

39. it happened in 2004 with votes going from kerry to bush here in texas and nm. thru out early voting

and into election day. NEVER once vote did the vote go from bush to kerry. not once. ever. they didnt fix it. people had never heard this. hit straight dem and all dem candidates marked and bush, not kerry. people tried to correct two, three, four times and would give up.

anyway you look at it that is bullshit.

[debbierlus]

34. CALL his national headquarters and ask what they are doing about it

The number is on barackobama.com, go to their contact information (scroll all the way down to the bottom of page for link).

[jazzjunkysue]

38. [e-mail]

[suston96]

40. No excuses but reasons for things happening.....

Against all my personal feelings about these machines I chose to use one in 2006.

I might add that I have worked on computers and such for most of my life. My experience with that 2006 voting was typical. I did everything correctly - until the final step where I was clearly told to CHECK MY CHOICES!

I failed to do that and when I pressed VOTE my ballot was gone. No printout! I did not follow simple instructions to check my choices before voting!

Now, one more thing: The other day I watched an example of so called vote flipping on a TV news program. A person with a fat finger made his choice between McCain and Obama by pressing Obama. His choice flipped to McCain - but....

His fat finger was on the black line that separated the two names. His Obama choice flipped to McCain because his finger touched the black line! I saw this in that demonstration.

My friends, none of us are experienced voters. We vote rarely. Once a year? Every two or four years? Maybe even less often than that?

Because of that lack of experience alone, I want to see those machines gone! I want those optiscan ballots that have been in use for many years. You know, fill in the little oval next to a candidate's name? Then they are scanned but are always available for manual recounts and random or actual tabulation validation.

And I want automatic recounts or ballot redundancy of some kind where that ballot tallying and those total tabulations are done several times.

But those infernal touch screens without printouts have got to go! We voters just do not have adequate experience to use them in such a vital process.