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Sun Oct-26-08 09:09 PM
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Monday: Zogby dropping O's lead from 5.4 (today) to 4.8 (Mon) |
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Sun Oct-26-08 09:11 PM
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1. HE hand his number over to Drudge hours before he releases them |
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Drudge adn Zogby got it goin' on with each other.
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Sun Oct-26-08 09:11 PM
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and national polls mean NOTHING
he is pulling away in state polls
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Sun Oct-26-08 09:11 PM
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Sun Oct-26-08 09:11 PM
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Sun Oct-26-08 09:14 PM
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10. You've captured his "air claws." |
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Sun Oct-26-08 09:12 PM
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he's a repuke asshat f***tard
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Sun Oct-26-08 09:14 PM
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9. Always add 3% to Obama with the Zogby poll |
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Which gives a result consistant with the other polls.
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Sun Oct-26-08 09:17 PM
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16. Maybe.. registrered Democrat though |
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His brother: James J. Zogby, President, Arab American Institute: There are two significant reasons why I am working to elect Barack Obama President of the U.S. http://www.politico.com/arena/
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Sun Oct-26-08 09:19 PM
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17. He very clearly has cooked his stats to favor the GOP |
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I don't care what his "party affiliation" is.
And what is it with people and their obsession with Arabs?
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Sun Oct-26-08 10:05 PM
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Melody wrote: "I don't care what his "party affiliation" is.
And what is it with people and their obsession with Arabs?"
You don't think people should discuss his polls because he is an Arab?
Welcome to ignore.
Bye bye.
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Sun Oct-26-08 10:11 PM
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34. Sadly, I just cleaned out my ignore list which is why you've appeared LOL |
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And you're going back to it where all the wee creatures of the forest are.
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Sun Oct-26-08 10:04 PM
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And Colin Powell's son is working on the mcRacist campaign. Neither argument really washes.
I'll take the anti-Obama push-poll Zogby released as confirmation that he is not an impartial pollster this cycle.
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Sun Oct-26-08 09:12 PM
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6. But Obama's number have gone UP .5, stopping his drop in the polls... |
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Edited on Sun Oct-26-08 09:16 PM by jenmito
and McCain will go up 1. FWIW
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Sun Oct-26-08 09:13 PM
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It's zogby, and nothing more. In other words, not derived from ACTUAL people.
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Sun Oct-26-08 09:13 PM
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Sun Oct-26-08 09:15 PM
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11. Zogby has no credibility left |
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His own commentary reveals what a hack he is. It's sensationalist bullshit.
Now, I fully expect this thing to tighten and be within five points on election day, but I'll wait for every other poll to confirm what's happening.
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Sun Oct-26-08 09:15 PM
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12. And Zogby claims McCain's winning the Jewish vote. |
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Sun Oct-26-08 09:20 PM
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18. Zogby does? Gallup has Obama with 74% of the Jewish vote. |
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Sun Oct-26-08 09:27 PM
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19. It was on C-Span yesterday morning. "Jewish vote-McCain-48%, Obama-46% |
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Edited on Sun Oct-26-08 09:28 PM by jenmito
which is BULL. EVERY Dem. gets the majority of Dems. At one point, Obama "only" got about 60% of their vote, but now it's up to 74%, probably due to "The Great Schlep" by Sarah Silverman. :)
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Sun Oct-26-08 09:16 PM
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13. Why didn't you post that Obama actually gained? |
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He will be at 49.9, an increase of just a little less than a point. McCain gained more, but it shows that Obama probably polled better Sunday than McCain.
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Sun Oct-26-08 09:47 PM
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22. Please Explain To Me How Obama Polled Better On Sunday |
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When you round off it's 50-45...
And rounding to the tenth when there is a MOE of 3% seems silly...
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Sun Oct-26-08 09:55 PM
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23. He went from 49.4 to 49.9. n/t |
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Sun Oct-26-08 09:59 PM
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25. Z(o)mby Is A Charlatan |
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I should kick myself for not ignoring him...
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Sun Oct-26-08 09:58 PM
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Edited on Sun Oct-26-08 10:01 PM by Drunken Irishman
The last three days, Obama was losing support. Yes it all could have been in the MOE, but if Obama polled 49-46 like he did Saturday, his lead would have continued to slip and he wouldn't have gained. But since he stabilized and actually inched up a bit, it shows he polled better Sunday than he did Saturday.
Now I don't know Zogby's Friday numbers, but it was reported Obama poll 49-46 yesterday. If he again polled 49-46, which is only a three point margin, on Sunday, his numbers would drop. However, since his lead remained five points, it indicates he had a better polling day on Sunday than he did Saturday.
Look at it this way, now this is just an example and probably off.
If Obama was polling 50-45 Friday night, then polled 49-46 Saturday (as Zogby reported) and then again polled only 49-46, Monday's results (which put Obama at 49.9 to 45.1) would be 49.3-45.6, or almost exactly like Zogby's results from a single days polling on Saturday. That would put the race at 49-46 (rounded), since it's a rolling average. If he polled worse on Sunday than he did on Saturday, Obama would probably have dropped even more.
But Zogby's numbers show Obama at 50 and McCain at 45, indicating Obama probably polled better than the 49-46 he was polling yesterday.
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Sun Oct-26-08 10:03 PM
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28. Thanks...It Makes Sense Now |
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Edited on Sun Oct-26-08 10:03 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
How much do you want to bet Z(o)mby doesn't release his one day poling results because it's in conflict with his "tightening race narrative"?
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Sun Oct-26-08 10:07 PM
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32. I hope he does, but I doubt he will. |
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He'll talk this up as McCain still gaining, which he did, but it looks like Obama probably polled 51-44 or something like that Sunday.
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Sun Oct-26-08 09:16 PM
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14. When will be show McCain winning CA? |
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Sun Oct-26-08 09:17 PM
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15. I recommend phrigndumbass' post as an antidote to Zogby's mad science |
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Sun Oct-26-08 09:28 PM
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20. Yep. That is an excellent post... |
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Sun Oct-26-08 09:34 PM
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21. It's only ONE poll--who died and left Zogby in charge all of a sudden? |
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Edited on Sun Oct-26-08 09:40 PM by rocknation
Don't you see that they're trying to tighten the poll before the end of the week to put next Tuesday within stealing range?
:headbang: rocknation
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Sun Oct-26-08 10:01 PM
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26. Zogby is a hack. Does push polls for Nesmax, and specialized in polls where u sign up online. |
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He's been staggeringly wrong on everything since he emerged on the scene a scant 5 years ago...
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Sun Oct-26-08 10:01 PM
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...but I'm hiding all Zogby threads from this point on. He's lost all credibility IMO with his wildly fluctuating poll numbers and bizzare internals. He's an attention whore and nothing more.
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Sun Oct-26-08 10:38 PM
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38. I'm hiding them as well. And since certain posters obsess about them... |
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I may have to do more than that.
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Sun Oct-26-08 10:06 PM
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31. 1. It's Zogby. 2. National Tracking Polls are not where it's at now. |
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Sun Oct-26-08 10:09 PM
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33. Its all about state Polls with a week to go |
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Sun Oct-26-08 10:34 PM
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36. Umm I think that's a statistically insignificant change |
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Sun Oct-26-08 10:37 PM
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37. Zogby polling is terrible. I don't care if it list Obama +20. It's so unrealible. |
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Edited on Sun Oct-26-08 10:39 PM by dontforgetpoland
I even trust ARG more than Zogby polling. Reuters should take it name off their polling
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Sun Oct-26-08 10:39 PM
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39. Zogby can lick the blowhole of a dead humpback whale. |
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Sun Oct-26-08 11:32 PM
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40. Is this the same Zogby that said Kerry would win in 2004? |
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He is trying to make himself relevant.
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Sun Oct-26-08 11:34 PM
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41. No it isn't the same poll. |
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Zogby state polls are trash, because they use internet surveys. However, his daily polling showed a tight race between Bush & Kerry. The only "landslide" was from his damn online state polls.
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