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Politics_Guy25 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:04 AM
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The National Polls DO NOT Matter/Electoral college math is nearly impossible for Mccain
Edited on Mon Oct-27-08 11:06 AM by RMP2008
According to a new University of Virginia poll, we're in fine shape. Senator Obama's up 51-40. Senator Obama in the most recent tracking poll of PA released today is up 53-40. He holds a 7 to an 11 point lead in Ohio. He's up by 7-8 in Colorado. And NM, IA, and MN are gone.

Mccain's path to 270 just is not there. We win VA, IA, NM. It's over. We win VA, IA, NM, CO, OH, it's doubly over.

Now I don't rule out Mccain winning the national popular vote. I think American sare stupid enough to perhaps do that but if he does, it won't be by more than 1% and if it's not more than 1%, Obama can still win the states that he needs to achieve 270.

Any late Mccain surge might push MO, GA, NV, MT, SD and Florida his way. But, again, I don't see how he flips the solid Obama states like VA and CO unless he pulls to like a 2-5% national popular vote lead and that just isn't going to happen.

Not typical for me not to worry I know but ae long as VA/CO/PA stay blowouts, the national polls can go to hell:)
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:09 AM
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1. Ya know, part of me wants him to win the popular vote and we take the electoral vote. Payback.
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ipfilter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:10 AM
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2. Can you imagine the whailing an gnashing of teeth from the freepers?
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:11 AM
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3. That would be fun.
We can all troll freerepublic.com and redstate.com and tell them "You lost! Get over it!"
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Shae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:12 AM
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No part of me wants that.
I want an Obama tsunami.
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:16 AM
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9. Amen! n/t
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 01:34 PM
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14. You're right. That would be better.
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Nipper1959 Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:16 AM
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8. I want
to see their ideology and their candidate crushed under a landslide of blue. I'd rather skip the irony and bury the pukes. Although I do have a sister that needs some ironic political justice injected into her life.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:25 AM
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10. me too. no pussyfooting. i want a tsunami.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:27 AM
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12. No thanks. I want this election to land on the Reps like a ton of bricks.
I want them buried. I want them battered and bruised and out of the WH for generations to come.
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:11 AM
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4. But, but, but... I just read that McCain "guarantees" a victory. Only if its stolen, my friends. nt
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Stagecoach Donating Member (468 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:12 AM
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5. The logic
The logic, not sure how they figure this, is if the national polls tighten that the state polls will follow. That's what the pundits say anyway.
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:14 AM
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7. Fuck the pundits. They are all stumping for McCain every chance they get. How
can Obama draw 100,000 regularly at speeches, to McCains few, and not win this thing? Something really smells rotten.
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Danieljay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:13 AM
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6. There is no effing way, barring fraud, that McCain could win the popular OR the Electoral.
Though I do have this fear inside, that we will have it stolen from us.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:27 AM
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11. You're acting as if Obama is BEHIND in national polls
In fact, he has a commanding lead in both national and state polls.
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 11:51 AM
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13. Obama has 8 paths to victory, 2 to an EV tie
With the Kerry states + IA & NM Obama wins 264 EV. After that he can win one of the following states and win the election. Colorado, Missouri, Indiana, Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina, Florida, Georgia. He only needs 1 to win, McCain needs all 8 and Obama is ahead in most of those states.

If Obama somehow loses those states if he wins either Nevada or W. Virginia he gets 269 EV and ties the election where hopefully the house of representatives will pick him as president.

Either way, McCain has no legitimate path to victory that doens't include massive election fraud.

Either way I prefer a massive landslide (375EV or more), 59 democratic senators and 260 house members just to let the GOP know the public are tired of their bullshit. The fact that Obama is winning republican states like Virginia & NC is even better, it is as demoralizing as the GOP winning places like Delaware or California.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 01:56 PM
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15. Right now Obama is at the hardware store buying some nails.
He's going to crucify the Republicans.
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