ATF Breaks Up Nazi Assasination Attempt At Obama

[THUNDER HANDS]

In Tennessee and Arkansas. Breaking on MSNBC.

[MadBadger]

1. Here is a LINK

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/APNEWSALERT?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

[RollWithIt]

10. Hmmm, why 102? I know from watching "Gangland" on History Channel...

#s usually have a meaning.

[Alhena]

12. The hardcore skinheads wanted 103, the moderates 101- they compromised

Sorry- I actually think this is probably a bunch of losers sitting around drinking beer and fantasizing about the coming "race war." But maybe it was an actual plot- we shall see.

[IsItJustMe]

21. I am thinking the same thing. Easy to talk smack when you are sitting around drinking a few beers.

I hope we are both right.

[ieoeja]

18. My guess: Obama, Michelle plus 100 locals. n/t

[orleans]

59. this:

Jim Cavanaugh, special agent in charge of the Nashville field office for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, said the two men planned to shoot 88 black people and decapitate another 14. The numbers 88 and 14 are symbolic in the white supremacist community.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081027/ap_on_el_pr/skinhead_plot

[DeadElephant_ORG]

62. The numbers 88 and 14 are symbolic in the white supremacist community - says MSNBC.

"The two planned to shoot 88 black people and decapitate another 14, he added. The numbers 88 and 14 are symbolic in the white supremacist community."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27405681/

[boppers]

72. 88 and 14

The 8th letter of the alphabet=H.
HH= Heil Hitler.

14 is prolly the "Fourteen Little Words": "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children"

[boppers]

73. dupe

[mile18blister]

80. For anyone who whats to know the meaning of 14 and 88.

* 14 refers to the 14-word slogan: “We must secure the existence of our race and a future for white children”
* 88 represents HH (H being the eighth number in the alphabet), which stands for Heil Hitler

http://www.media-awareness.ca/english/issues/online_hate/deconst_online_hate.cfm

Dealing with some hardcore sickos here folks.

[Orsino]

84. Also David Lane's 88 Precepts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/88_Precepts

[K Gardner]

48. F **ing Tennessee low life redneck scum, figures.

[TornadoTN]

57. Gee thanks.....

Some of us actually live here and are working hard for Progressive causes and to eventually turn Tennessee blue. It will happen, unless people have your same mindset, and I say this as gently as possible.

[Danger Mouse]

64. Blame the people, not the region.

I live in upstate New York, and we have our fair share of ignorant bigots up here, too.

[Robeson]

65. What an intelligent remark.

[reflection]

67. (rolling eyes)

Always with the regional slurs...

[Left Is Write]

69. Al Gore thanks you for your support.

:eyes:

[orleans]

52. can you copy and paste from the link? internet explorer won't let me open

i heard tadesco field on thursday? (sp)

randi mentioned that--where is tadesco field?

[ErinBerin84]

2. yeah, WTF...scary. He read it from an AP wire.

[SoonerPride]

3. lots of good news today

[TheCoxwain]

35. How is this good news? Are you soft in your head?

[Mariana]

38. They got caught before they hurt anyone.

I think that's good news.

[Lex]

39. Exactly.

nt

[TheCoxwain]

40. In that sense - ys .. .. but this is bone chilling news otherwise

[SoonerPride]

51. Bone chillng? Yes. Surprising?

No.

But lock up these fuckers as fast as possible.

Getting them off the street is great news in my book.

[THUNDER HANDS]

4. updated

neo-nazi, skinhead, group in Tennessee and Arkansas, sought to kill Obama and over 100 blacks, apparently.

[carlotta]

5. Not only Obama....

They planned to kill 100 African Americans. What kind of sickos think these things up?

[Marrah_G]

8. Racist- white supremist sickos

[Marrah_G]

6. You beat me to it !

[bluestateguy]

7. McCain and Palin have stirred up a lot of hatred

Their fiery rhetoric eggs on people like this to believe that they are somehow morally justified.

[Kolesar]

13. Sad but true. All the GOP has now is to be sore losers

and try to ruin the new government next year.

[Az_lefty]

77. as with all publicans, they'll leave it for someone else to clean up.

[kwolf68]

9. So let me ask

Is this 'real Americans'?

[Lex]

20. Palin and McCain think so

I do believe.

[Cali_Democrat]

22. You betcha

'real Murkans' indeed.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

42. It's the McDisgusting base.

[Stagecoach]

11. That's why I've been saying

The election results will be the secondary story on election night. Not that anything will happen to Obama.....but I can't help but think there's going to be other stories of violence that night.

[my2sense]

26. I agree - these racist bastards will do somthing

to show their disapproval when Obama wins.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

71. Exactly. Obama has good protection.

Joe Q. Random African-American hasn't.

[jillan]

14. Interesting how McCain/Palin supporters are terrorists.

unbelievable!

[beachmom]

86. Are they supporters of McCain/Palin? From what I have read, in general,

about these groups is they dislike McCain for his immigration reform record.

[Two Sheds]

15. This could be the end of the election...

if this gets traction, by which I mean if this is even a vaguely credible threat, McCain and Palin will HAVE to tone down the rhetoric at their appearances. They won't be able to use "Real American" rhetoric again.

[soleft]

27. also denounce and demand shutting down 527's

Includng the new one on Wright

[Two Sheds]

32. Denounce, don't demand

Running Wright ads would only make it worse for the GOP at this point.

[VolcanoJen]

16. Link, no details, but link:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ijDA5bgxiHlTvS_r-SSjskS1Tq1wD94323R01

APNewsAlert
10 minutes ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — ATF says it has disrupted skinhead plot to assassinate Obama, kill 102 black people.

102?? That's a weird number. There must be names attached to those numbers.

[Parker CA]

17. This just proves though how much precaution and energy is being put into protecting our man!!

[Lex]

19. They need to be made examples of.

[gatorboy]

23. Any word on whether they are connected to the group that was arrested this summer?

The group that the DOJ considered no big deal? :mad:

[Beetwasher]

24. McCain/Palin, SEE WHAT YOU HAVE UNLEASHED YOU SCUMBAGS?!

N/T

[Median Democrat]

28. McCain/Palin Are Proud Of Their Supporters

[VolcanoJen]

25. MSNBC adds more details....

... ATF says they disrupted a plot by neonazi skinheads to rob a gun store, attack an African-American high school (!!!!!!) and then assassinate Obama.

Looks like it was just in the planning stages, thankfully. Thanks to the ATF for their excellent work.

[Marrah_G]

30. I know alot of people are anti-authority but these guys deserve a big thank you!

People need to remember that these agencies are made up of individuals who have been there through many administrations. They put their lives on the line every day.

[DevonRex]

61. Thank you. I was in ATF until 1997. Don't remember too many

thank yous from folks. Although one guy did send me a bag of Hershey's Kisses.

[Marrah_G]

66. Were you?

Wow- Kudos to you. Tough job that goes under the public's radar far to often. I have alot of respect for all our law enforcement people. Unfortunately bad apples get the most press and all the hard working ones go unnoticed.

From me to you- Thank you!

[DevonRex]

68. What, no chocolate? :) Thanks Marrah. nt

[Marrah_G]

74. OMG

Share some Hot Chocolate with me !

[bullwinkle428]

31. If they had to rob a gun store, then they all probably had criminal records

to begin with!! I hope the ATF is taking this seriously, as we're talking about guys with (most likely) long rap sheets...

[DeschutesRiver]

46. So they were planning to kill school children?

I will work for the rest of my life to see that people like this don't advance in society, and spend their days limited to their own private hells.

[Rocknrule]

29. "I'm John McCain and I approve this act of domestic terrorism"

:mad:

[Two Sheds]

36. HEY!!! Let's hear about terrorism NOW, Sarah!

nm

[Rocknrule]

43. That evil bitch will call them "true Americans" and "patriots"

behind closed doors, if nothing else

Just like I'm sure she calls McVeigh a patriot

[ampad]

33. The bastards wanted to target a high school

They wanted to go after children. This is what I was saying when I said please be careful on election night. These bastards are going to go all out on Nov 4th.

[leftist.]

34. BREAKING - ATF disrupts plot by real america to stop redistribution of wealth.

He's a Marxist that pals around with terrorists, dontcha know!

Guns, babies, and Jesus! Hot Damn!

[gkhouston]

37. Just in time to limit discussion of the Stevens verdict?

:tinfoilhat:

[BumRushDaShow]

81. Yup. I even screencapped the Breaking headline from MSNBC.com

And the Stevens story was relegated to the corner. I usually don't do this --> :tinfoilhat: but that was too obvious, although I definitely won't negate the domestic terrorist threat against Obama.

[frickaline]

41. ** school was the target, 88 to be shot, 14 decapitated, link: **

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081027/D943289G0.html

By LARA JAKES JORDAN

WASHINGTON (AP) - Federal agents have broken up a plot to assassinate Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama and shoot or decapitate 102 black people in a Tennessee murder spree, the ATF said Monday.

In court records unsealed Monday, federal agents said they disrupted plans to rob a gun store and target a predominantly African-American high school by two neo-Nazi skinheads. Agents said the skinheads did not identify the school by name.

Jim Cavanaugh, special agent in charge of the Nashville field office for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, said the two men planned to shoot 88 black people and decapitate another 14. The numbers 88 and 14 are symbolic in the white supremacist community.

The men also sought to go on a national killing spree, with Obama as its final target, Cavanaugh told The Associated Press.

"They said that would be their last, final act - that they would attempt to kill Sen. Obama," Cavanaugh said. "They didn't believe they would be able to do it, but that they would get killed trying."

[DeschutesRiver]

44. Still proud to be a redneck, Sarah? I lay the majority of blame on YOU.

She belonged to the AIP, even though they have erased most of the records of her membership (there are damning tapes in this regard already out there). Her husband is still identified as a previous card carrying member of AIP. She spoke to them with praise at this year's AIP convention.

As far as I have read, the AIP membership is considered to be similar to those who blew up the Murrah Building in Oklahoma - a bunch of skinhead types. Yeah, I'll read more and better educate myself on this, in case I am in error.

But she has single handedly (with some implicit help by McCain) stirred up a racial hornet's nest - little Ms. "so Sambo beat the bitch" Palin, at every rally she attends. Proud to be a redneck, and now I know exactly what kind of redneck.

A damned racist one. We might as well be battling David Duke in this election. So be it - I want these freaks marginalized within my lifetime, and as scary as this is, this seems to be part of the process. I admit I am a bit Irish and emotional about this right now.

But Sarah Palin can go to hell - conniving little redneck bitch.

[WeDidIt]

45. Apparently these skinheads come from

patriotic real America.

[kwenu]

47. Despicable. Absolutely despicable.

[Kalyke]

49. I'm in Tennessee and I'd certainly like to know which school it was.

[TornadoTN]

60. I would like to know what area of the state these freaks are based

Could be anywhere to be honest, it's not confined to "backwoods" areas or the big city. I want to know where they got these scum.

[demo dutch]

85. Arrested in Crockett county, so probably a Memphis school?

[TheCoxwain]

50. Any further info -- photos, bios?

[KingFlorez]

53. These are the pro-Americans Palin was talking about

I bet she's really angry they got caught.

[nsd]

54. I'm glad these guys were caught, but on reading the details this story is distinctly underwhelming.

There were only two skinheads and the plan, such as it was, was to 1) rob a gun store to get the weapons they would need, 2) shoot 88 people and behead another 14 at a predominantly African-American high school, and 3) somehow then kill Obama. That's it. That's their whole plan. How they would actually do any of this stuff hadn't been worked out. I don't think it's worth sweating over.

This story feels a lot like the Obama assassination story floated during the Democratic convention, which turned out to be three crystal meth addicts with a rifle and without a clue.

[americanstranger]

58. Yeah, it reads like a Nazi Columbine.

I'm glad they were caught, but it sounds like the pipe dream of a couple of meth freaks if you ask me.

- as

[ecstatic]

76. I hope they're keeping their eyes on the more credible threats as well

I'm glad these guys were caught though.

[Two Sheds]

82. 88 has meaning for neo-nazis

88 is a code for "Heil Hitler." 8 is the eighth letter of the alphabet. 88 is HH. Get it? It's tinfoily but it's true. I've read it in books about the Christian Identity movement. A linked article to msnbc.com says that 14 has some significance as well. I don't know what that is.

[PretzelWarrior]

55. this is horrible. they should throw the book at them

and raise the Domestic Inbred Terrorism Threat level to Orange.

[lady raven]

56. Here's a more in- depth article:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27405681/

[TornadoTN]

63. *UPDATE* Both arrested in Crockett County, Tennessee

This is in the Western Part of the state, just to the Northeast of Memphis.

[wakka092]

79. Thank God they were arrested

Oh God! That's really creepy. I'm a high school student in Lauderdale County. I could have been in the middle of their murderous march. This hits WAY too close to home.

[RepublicanElephant]

70. thanks alot, sarah!

:mad:

[BlooInBloo]

75. Let's see how long it takes DUers to feel sorry for these fuckers...

EDIT: Like the B-face bigot woman.

[DevonRex]

78. Oh, those poor, poor misguided

complete and total racist fucking assholes!

How's that? :)

[Orsino]

83. Or how long it takes DU to convict them.

Little early for conclusions.