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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:18 PM
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Breaking: Skinhead plot..to kill Obama and kill 100 African Americans foiled..
per MSNBC
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Bubbha Jo Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:19 PM
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1. He mentioned AR & TN, didn't he? n/t
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my2sense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:19 PM
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2. This should be laid at Palin/McCain's feet
They started this hatefest.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:21 PM
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7. Yeah, and yet all three of the guys on msnbc now are backing away from that idea...
...the two guests and David Schuster.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:28 PM
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31. You know, perhaps I'm being too REASONABLE about this...
Edited on Mon Oct-27-08 03:28 PM by Spider Jerusalem
but I kind of suspect that these neo-Nazi racists would have very probably come up with this plot regardless of what kind of campaign McCain and Palin ran. After all, it's not like they're neo-Nazis because they thought the SS had really cool uniforms.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:36 PM
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35. Doesn't matter a twit..they chose hatemongering
and let them prove the skinheads didn't follow their instruction.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:45 PM
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39. I'm sorry, but you have to be somewhat deluded to make that presumption.
You have a 'white nationalist' neo-Nazi group that espouses an ideology of virulent racism, some of whose members formulate a plan to assassinate a man likely to be America's first black president; why would you presume any motivation beyond their own irrational hatred?
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 04:17 PM
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43. Gotta admit, though, it's like glove fits hand.
The McStalin campaign dovetails right into the KKK, skinheads, and other hate groups. The GOP can no longer run on issues, only hate. Can we elect something other than flesh-covered hate for once?
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 04:32 PM
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47. Anyone knows the first black Presidential nominee has a target on his back. Yet, you repeatedly
equate him with enemies of the nation who murdered 3000 citizens on 911? Whether you are Palin or Limbaugh or McCain, you are not too dumb to know you are lighting a match next to gasoline.
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Gnister Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:19 PM
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3. McCain/Palin campaign will have blood on their hands if anything happens!
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VeraAgnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:19 PM
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4. I bet they have
McCain/Palin bumper stickers too.
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:20 PM
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5. Skinheads jailed?

That's 100 fewer 'people' voting for McCain
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:20 PM
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6. thank goodness they were foiled
:(
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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:21 PM
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8. I just heard this. Ugh.
I really hope they prosecute these guys, unlike the the ones that they caught in CO around the DNC.
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Applan Donating Member (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:21 PM
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9. Just saw it on Fox too
More after the break
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:21 PM
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10. I thought terrorists were only Muslims
huh
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:22 PM
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11. no details on this yet
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:22 PM
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12. so i guess Pat Buchanan won't be on Msnbc tonight?
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:25 PM
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23. Lmao! OMG I spit out my water! thanks
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Chisox08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 04:13 PM
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42. It also looks like Colmes will be hosting by himself
Edited on Mon Oct-27-08 04:13 PM by Chisox08
And BillO wont be on tonight either.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:22 PM
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13. Let's see if the Justice Dept. is willing to treat them as the terrorists they are!
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:22 PM
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14. The thugs are all coming out from under their rocks, aren't they?
Fuck you Palin and all your racist talk.
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electionwatcher Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:23 PM
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Just heard
This has just broken on Sky News
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:23 PM
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15. Thank GOD they got them before some tragedy could ensue...
WTF is WRONG w/these people...:grr:

God only knows i despise bush, McCain and a host of other neo-cons, but I cannot in any way consider assassination. Hope they spend the rest of their lives behind bars if they are found guilty.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:23 PM
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16. It's only gonna get uglier
I expect all hell to break loose starting November 5.
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:24 PM
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19. Or the 3rd.
Yeah, I expect some violence and then some counter violence from the masses who far outnumber those fucks
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:23 PM
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17. I'm gonna assume this is National Alliance.
Or one of its offshoots.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:24 PM
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18. might be forced to have a mass roundup of freepers..
and sent to "pysch camps" for re-education. just a suggestion..
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:25 PM
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20. Or deport them.
Don;t they always say "love it or leave it?"

Lets send them on their way somewhere else.
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:25 PM
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21. Holy crap! McHate's message appears to be getting through
to all of his batshit crazy followers!!

I guess they'd do anything for their fearless leader.. even commit murder.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:25 PM
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22. Link - no details, but a link:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ijDA5bgxiHlTvS_r-SSjskS1Tq1wD94323R01

APNewsAlert
10 minutes ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — ATF says it has disrupted skinhead plot to assassinate Obama, kill 102 black people.


102?? That's a weird number. There must be names attached to those numbers.
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Bubbha Jo Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:27 PM
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26. Said it was released in some court documents... just in the planning stage when foiled. n/t
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frickaline Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:28 PM
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30. Another article, school was target:
Edited on Mon Oct-27-08 03:42 PM by frickaline
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081027/D94328PG2.html

By LARA JAKES JORDAN

WASHINGTON (AP) - Federal agents have broken up a plot to assassinate Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama and shoot or decapitate 102 black people in a Tennessee murder spree, the ATF said Monday.

In court records unsealed Monday, federal agents said they disrupted plans to rob a gun store and target a predominantly African-American high school by two neo-Nazi skinheads. Agents said the skinheads did not identify the school by name.

Jim Cavanaugh, special agent in charge of the Nashville field office for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, said the two men planned to shoot 88 black people and decapitate another 14. The numbers 88 and 14 are symbolic in the white supremacist community.

The men also sought to go on a national killing spree, with Obama as its final target, Cavanaugh told The Associated Press.

"They said that would be their last, final act - that they would attempt to kill Sen. Obama," Cavanaugh said. "They didn't believe they would be able to do it, but that they would get killed trying."
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mile18blister Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 04:26 PM
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45. Meaning of 14 and 88.
* 14 refers to the 14-word slogan: “We must secure the existence of our race and a future for white children”
* 88 represents HH (H being the eighth number in the alphabet), which stands for Heil Hitler

http://www.media-awareness.ca/english/issues/online_hate/deconst_online_hate.cfm

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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 04:49 PM
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49. Crap I'm in TN. Did they say where in TN?
nt
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frickaline Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 05:00 PM
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50. I assume it was in or near Crockett County, Helena-West Helena
Edited on Mon Oct-27-08 05:01 PM by frickaline
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:26 PM
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24. apparently this comes out of court records...ATF apparently disrupted very early stage planning
Edited on Mon Oct-27-08 03:27 PM by Doityourself
records unsealed...that's why its out...

these nut bags wanted to open fire in a high school full of black kids!
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:26 PM
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25. What's the Over/Under on teh Freepers
complaining about the ATF doing this?
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PermanentRevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:34 PM
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34. More likely they'll say the skinheads were secret Obama plants to boost sympathy
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:39 PM
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37. Oh they started that almost immediately
plus it takes their "Redistribution of Wealth" tape story off the table, so obviously these guys ahve been planning knowning all along that this story would finally hit Dridge today when they would be arrested for it.

We Democrats are dastardly brilliant, aren't we?
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PermanentRevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:42 PM
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38. They really are predictable, aren't they?
Oh, and batshit-crazy. Can't forget that one.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:27 PM
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Hmm, sounds like domestic terrorism--that's what the McStupid campaign has been courting.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:27 PM
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27. The key word here is "foiled."
Moving right along......
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:27 PM
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28. So the College Republicans got caught again? n/t
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:27 PM
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29. Good on the ATF and the security people for keeping on top of everything and keeping Obama safe!! nm
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mscuedawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:32 PM
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32. Silence in the face of hate is NOT fit to lead!!!!
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:32 PM
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33. I wonder if these two are in any relation
to the two in Colorado during the convention?
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:37 PM
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36. I wish they'd pack up and leave instead of trying to pack.
But where would they go? Does anyone in the world want skinheads and neonazis living there?
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:57 PM
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40. I pray to God Obama has a small army protecting him
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:59 PM
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41. *UPDATE* Both arrested in Crockett County, Tennessee
This in the western area of the state, just to the Northeast of Memphis.
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cheezit Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 04:19 PM
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44. Three elderly black ladies just came into
the store I work at and were talking about not voting for Obama because they don't want anything bad to happen to him. I hope they don't follow through. I hope this sentiment is not widespread.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 04:32 PM
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46. That's very good to hear. It shows a lot of people have got his back that is why it was important to...
Edited on Mon Oct-27-08 04:34 PM by barack the house
win this big. Just posting out those letters and poems door to door on why it's good to vote Obama/Biden. Especially in red areas.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 04:42 PM
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Edited on Mon Oct-27-08 04:44 PM by barack the house
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 04:42 PM
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48. The main thing here is not to fear just carry on with love and enthusiasm, hope is round the corner....
Edited on Mon Oct-27-08 04:43 PM by barack the house
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