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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:46 PM
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Can Palin Pardon Stevens?
Anyone from Alaska know?
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:47 PM
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1. On a Federal charge? I doubt it. n/t
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:47 PM
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2. Palin hates Stevens
but I do wonder if she has the balls to try appointing herself to the senate,
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:50 PM
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14. Seat is up ffor re-election, only way the governor gets to make an appointment is if Stevens wins...
Edited on Mon Oct-27-08 03:51 PM by Spider Jerusalem
and is expelled from the Senate for moral turpitude. (And his Democratic opponent is likely to win the seat, so I doubt that will happen.)
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 04:03 PM
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18. my understanding is that in Alaska the governor doesn't have the power to appoint
a replacement senator. He/she can only call a special election. THe law in Alaska was changed after Frank Murkowski was eletted governor and then appointed his daughter to his Congressional seat.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:48 PM
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3. It's a federal conviction. Only Bush can pardon him.
And I'm not sure if Bush and Stevens are really all that close anyway.

He may not make the list on January 20th.
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Dr. Death Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:48 PM
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4. I'm not from Alaska, but I don't think that a state governor
can pardon a federal official who commits federal crimes.
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:51 PM
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15. What if Alaska secedes, delcares war on the US and demands Stevens be set free?
Edited on Mon Oct-27-08 04:23 PM by DrToast
No?
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 04:00 PM
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16. Well, then, they can damned well have him, lol! He won't be a UNITED
STATES senator anymore if he hails from a foreign country.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 04:05 PM
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20. How do you nominate Duzys?
This should be the undisputed winner. :)
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Dr. Death Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 04:07 PM
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23. Well then it will be like the last time
a state seceded and declared war on the U.S.

Only this time, we'll get king crab legs and salmon instead of tobacco and smoked hams once we beat them into the ground.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 04:11 PM
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24. Then we will have to be prepared for their crack Armored Polar Bears...
and Machine Gun Moose divisions.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:48 PM
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5. seems highly unlikely
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:48 PM
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6. These are federal crimes, not state convictions
A governor has no power over the federal courts
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:48 PM
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7. Couldn't only W pardon him....he probably will on his last day in office
Mark Begich is still going to win that Senate seat though next Tuesday.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:48 PM
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8. Bush can pardon Stevens
But Palin cannot.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:49 PM
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11. Yes that's what I thought, only W could pardon Stevens n/t
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:49 PM
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12. Bush will probably pardon him on the way out
Stevens is the longest serving Republicans senator, right? He must be good buddies with Bush Sr. Jr. will probably pardon him in December.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 04:05 PM
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21. Yes Pardon Stevens on the last day, and then Poppy will give Stevens a seat on Carlyle Board
Isn't that how it tends to work with this crowd? I think it is.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:48 PM
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9. his charges were federal i believe.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:49 PM
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10. NOPE.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 03:50 PM
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13. No, but Bush can.
He was convicted of federal crimes.

Palin needs to worry about that house that Todd built with friends.

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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 04:01 PM
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17. No.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 04:04 PM
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19. i don't think a governor can pardon a senator
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 04:06 PM
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22. No.
He was convicted at the federal level. She lacks the authority to play any role.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 04:15 PM
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25. She probably thinks she can, but the answer is no.
Stevens was convicted of a federal crime. A state executive has no jurisdiction (even a really stupid one who thinks that she can do whatever she wants).
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 05:52 PM
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28. But, if she becomes the Head of the Senate when she's VP
can she control the Senate enough to Pardon him?

I think she can. After all the Constitution gives all kinds of powers to the Vice President.

David

:)
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 05:53 PM
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30. She probably thinks he was acquitted!
Remember when she was found to be guilty of abuse of power? "Oh, I'm so glad that I've been cleared of these abuse of power charges"
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 05:49 PM
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26. No... these were Federal Charges... Bush * could
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progressiveforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 05:50 PM
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27. Nope, but Bush can
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 05:52 PM
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29. Her last attempt at a pardon didn't work out to well
:shrug:
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