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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 05:57 PM
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Something very strange just happened to Mccain just now.
Edited on Mon Oct-27-08 05:58 PM by nc4bo
Edit to clarify that I was watching the LIVE feed from CNN.

He finished his speech then walked down the steps and started shaking hands. It's typical behavior, right?

Well this time, he stopped shaking hands and ran, RAN back up the stage, back to the podium and started waving furiously, even looked like he was going to speak again.

He had to be led off the stage. My view was interrupted after that when the cameraman's hand covered the camera lens and the feed ceased.

Did anyone else see this just now? What do you make of it?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 05:58 PM
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1. He forgot his onion. n/t
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 05:59 PM
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6. IanDB1, seriously it was alarming behavior. I've never seen anything like that before. nt
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 05:59 PM
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7. No it was tied to his belt
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Leftist Agitator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:00 PM
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11. As was the style at the time.
We couldn't get white onions, because of the war. Only those big yellow ones...

:rofl:
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AAARRRGGGHHH Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 09:37 PM
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45. "Give me five 'bees' for a quarter",
we'd say.
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zarath Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:01 PM
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12. As was the fashion in the day. N/T
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 07:57 AM
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58. The story is not as funny as it is long
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 05:58 PM
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2. He's been acting really weird all day long...

..sputtering, pounding his fists..etc.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:04 PM
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25. yes he has. I've watched him earlier today when he was fist pound...
I thought he was going to break the podium or his hand.

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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 09:22 AM
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60. he's channeling khrushchev. nt
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 03:45 PM
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63. Do you think campaigning has messed up his sleep-wake cycle so much that he's
Edited on Tue Oct-28-08 03:46 PM by gkhouston
on an escalating mix of pills to pep him up and slow him down at different times of the day and it's getting to be too much? :shrug:

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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 05:58 PM
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3. I didn't see it...
But that sounds like the behavior of an ill man...

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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 05:59 PM
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4. Doesn't know if he's coming or going?
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Forrest Greene Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 10:11 PM
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50. I Think He Knows
...he's going.


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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 05:59 PM
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5. Where did this happen?
I'd like to see the video.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 05:59 PM
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9. I think he was in Pa. It was on CNN's Live video feed of the rally, just now. nt
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 05:59 PM
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8. Down the memory hole.
Without video it didn't happen.

He is getting nutty.
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:00 PM
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10. his mistress was standing there with her hand out
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tomg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:01 PM
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13. It doesn't surprise me at all. Seriously,
he has been wandering around on stage a fair amount of late. I think he is losing it under the stress and the recognition of his imminent loss.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:07 PM
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29. I think you are right. Talking about stress, I could only imagine what these candidates go through.
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Smuckies Donating Member (600 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:01 PM
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14. That is truly scary.
Not being funny. Your description sounds like someone who has a true problem.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:02 PM
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19. Man, I'm hoping someone caught it and will put on YouTube. Yikes! nt
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:01 PM
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15. The devils made him do it... he was poked and prodded.
:evilgrin:




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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:01 PM
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He left his magic sharpie behind?
He was waving to his fellow prisoners?

Didn't see it, but I hope someone gets it to youtube right away.
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:01 PM
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16. He had just heard about Steven's conviction.....
.....and soiled his drawers!
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:02 PM
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17. Old James Brown shtick.
Did someone try to throw a dressing gown over him?

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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 09:41 PM
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47. Can you give yourself a DUzy?
If so, go ahead on.
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:02 PM
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18. ouch.
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:03 PM
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22. and ouch again.
After the penultima Presidential debate where it looked like he was going to get lost wandering all around, my partner and I were convinced there was a reason they made the candidates sit down for that last debate.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:02 PM
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20. I guess he picked the wrong week to start dropping acid again... nm.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 08:08 PM
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43. More Sinister Than Acid...
Edited on Mon Oct-27-08 08:08 PM by ribofunk
Ibogaine.

It took down Muskie in 1972.

I immediately recognized The Ibogaine Effect -- from Muskie's tearful breakdown on the flatbed truck in New Hampshire, the delusions and altered thinking that characterized his campaign in Florida, and finally the condition of "total rage" that gripped him in Wisconsin.

There was no doubt about it: The Man from Maine had turned to massive doses of Ibogaine as a last resort. The only remaining question was "when did he start?" But nobody could answer this one, and I was not able to press the candidate himself for an answer because I was permanently barred from the Muskie campaign after that incident on the "Sunshine Special" in Florida . . . and that scene makes far more sense now than it did at the time. Muskie has always taken pride in his ability to deal with hecklers; he has frequently challenged them, calling them up to the stage in front of big crowds and then forcing the poor bastards to debate with him in a blaze of TV lights.

But there was none of that in Florida. When the Boohoo began grabbing at his legs and screaming for more gin, Big Ed went all to pieces . . . which gave rise to speculation. among reporters familiar with his campaign style in '68 and '70, that Muskie was not himself. It was noted, among other things, that he had developed a tendency to roll his eyes wildly during TV interviews, that his thought patterns had become strangely fragmented, and that not even his closest advisors could predict when he might suddenly spiral off into babbling rages, or neocomatose funks.

In restrospect, however, it is easy to see why Muskie fell apart on that caboose platform in the Miami train station. There he was -- far gone in a bad Ibogaine frenzy -- suddenly shoved out in a rainstorm to face a sullen crowd and some kind of snarling lunatic going for his legs while he tried to explain why he was "the only Democrat who can beat Nixon."

It is entirely conceivable -- given the known effects of Ibogaine -- that Muskie's brain was almost paralyzed by hallucinations at the time; that he looked out at that crowd and saw gila monsters instead of people, and that his mind snapped completely when he felt something large and apparently vicious clawing at his legs. We can only speculate on this, because those in a position to know have flatly refused to comment on rumors concerning the Senator's disastrous experiments with Ibogaine. I tried to find the Brazilian doctor on election Bight in Milwaukee, but by the time the polls closed he was long gone. One of the hired bimbos in Milwaukee's Holiday Inn headquarters said a man with fresh welts on his head had been dragged out the side door and put on a bus to Chicago, but we were never able to confirm this.

http://www.vcdh.virginia.edu/HIUS316/mbase/docs/hsthomp.html
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:03 PM
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21. He forgot something important he wanted to say, but then misjudged his ability to quiet the crowd -
When he returned to the stage and started waving, his entourage realized that the crowd was now too noisy for him to get their attention again and led him offstage so that there wouldn't be embarrassing footage of him being ignored by his own supporters.

That is my guess...

Not bizarre, just socially clueless...
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:05 PM
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26. Think so? God, I hope you are right. The crowd was really wired up and rowdy
Edited on Mon Oct-27-08 06:06 PM by nc4bo
geez. Not sure a gazillion lion tamers could control that mob.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 09:45 PM
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48. That's what I thought, too. But it was surprising. n/t
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 08:17 AM
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59. Likely right. That happened to Obama once at a fundraiser, remember?
They showed it on TV many times because it related to Hillary just after the primaries ended. He ended his talk, walked off the stage and then got a startled look on his face and rushed back to the stage. He did talk again though and reminded the people to (I think) donate to Hillary to help pay off her debt.

But maybe what McCain remembered was he was suppose to do what Obama does before he leaves the stage to shake hands...he turns to each section of the crowd and waves. Sort of a nice touch. McCain may have been advised to do that but he forgot until he was already off stage and made the wrong choice of going back on the stage instead of waiting and doing it next time.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:03 PM
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23. Not sure, but I'm stealing your pie image.
if you don't mind spreading the bandwidth around a bit.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:09 PM
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32. LOL - I "stole" it from blogslut ;) Just grab and host it and you're good to go LOL nt
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:03 PM
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24. He was looking for Mr. Puddles.......... Mr. Puddles? Have you seen Mr.Puddles?
He had snausages for him.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:06 PM
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27. Are there any credible journalists still willing to cover his rallies?
If so, hopefully they will write about it tonight.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:07 PM
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31. Nope. Just the bloggers have been getting some before and after
crowd interactions. There were a few of a couple people shouting crazy stuff but no one is allowed to ask anyone any questions at these rallies.

I guess we all know why.
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Pattib Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:07 PM
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28. I had CNN turned on with the sound down...saw McLame and turned the channel.
Hope someone got this.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:07 PM
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30. He is 72 years old.. campaigning..
and keeping up with the lies he tells must be exhausting.
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:12 PM
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33. He needs to take 7 days off
and relax a bit. Everything will be just fine.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:13 PM
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34. The mescaline kicked in.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 07:49 AM
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56. : )
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:15 PM
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35. It was the Bungie cord Cindy had tied around his waist.....n/t
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Ferret Annica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:15 PM
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36. Maybe his campaign has a shock collar on him and he walked to far from where they wanted the senile
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:20 PM
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37. My dog acts like that when he gets to the edge of the invisible fence.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:21 PM
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38. The Manchurian implant needs a reboot.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:22 PM
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39. The alien symbiont lifeform in his intestine wants to escape and vote for Obama.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:22 PM
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40. This is too easy. Give me a hard one.
:rofl:
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 07:31 PM
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41. Add this to his strained determination on MTP to name the five SoS's who endorsed him....
To use a politician's favorite word, McCain's behavior this week is..."troubling."
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 07:34 PM
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42. Senile dementia/PTSD kicking in.
McCain is one f'cked up dude. He should not be let anywhere near the red buttons.
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Unbowed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 05:58 AM
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51. You're right. He has serious medical/mental issues that nobody is talking about.
That would be age discrimination, you see. :sarcasm:

I don't think he has the faculties to be president of anything, let alone the United States of America.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 08:10 PM
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44. Maybe he forgot to mention Sec. State Schultz
but forgot his name again before he got back up to the podium?
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 09:40 PM
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46. Damn, you beat me.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 09:49 PM
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49. OK, this is about the 4th report of really odd McCain behavior just today.
I mean more odd than normal - like medically or psychologically odd.
Something's going on.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 06:07 AM
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52. I haven't seen the film,but from your description,
is it possible he got confused and thought he was coming instead of going?I don't mean this sarcastically,it really sounds like he was bounding up on stage to give his speech,maybe he forgot that he had just finished it?
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 07:19 AM
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53. My mother thinks he's senile
As she puts it, "I live in a retirement community. Believe me, I know senile."



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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 07:43 AM
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54. Ambien - my immediate thought was Ambien
We know that McCain uses Ambien - it is one thing that did come out of his medical records disclosure.

From Wiki

Elderly
An extensive review of the medical literature regarding the management of insomnia and the elderly found that there is considerable evidence of the effectiveness and durability of non-drug treatments for insomnia in adults of all ages and that these interventions are underutilized. Compared with the benzodiazepines, the nonbenzodiazepine (including zolpidem) sedative-hypnotics appeared to offer few, if any, significant clinical advantages in efficacy or tolerability in elderly persons. It was found that newer agents with novel mechanisms of action and improved safety profiles, such as the melatonin agonists, hold promise for the management of chronic insomnia in elderly people. Long-term use of sedative-hypnotics for insomnia lacks an evidence base and has traditionally been discouraged for reasons that include concerns about such potential adverse drug effects as cognitive impairment (anterograde amnesia), daytime sedation, motor incoordination, and increased risk of motor vehicle accidents and falls. In addition, the effectiveness and safety of long-term use of these agents remain to be determined. It was concluded that more research is needed to evaluate the long-term effects of treatment and the most appropriate management strategy for elderly persons with chronic insomnia.<29>

Side-effects at any dose may include:
Anterograde amnesia
Hallucinations, through all physical senses, of varying intensity
Delusions
Altered thought patterns
Ataxia or poor motor coordination, difficulty maintaining balance<30>
Euphoria and/or dysphoria
Increased appetite
Decreased libido
Amnesia
Impaired judgment and reasoning
Uninhibited extroversion in social or interpersonal settings
Increased impulsivity
When stopped, rebound insomnia may occur

Wiki Link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zolpidem


In addition Addiction Inbox has noticed the problems McCain is having http://addiction-dirkh.blogspot.com/2008/10/john-mccain-and-ambien.html
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 07:48 AM
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55. Beats me what's going on with McCain.
He's likely aware by now that his fellow citizens are going to reject his candidacy and I don't think he is self-actualized enough to absorb that. Essentially, the whole world is rooting for Obama.

In MOBY-DICK, I think Ahab thought he would prevail against the sea creature up to the very last second or two. McCain's been in denial for weeks and the last couple of weeks or so, it must have been clearly driven home by his closest staff people that the campaign is over.

That might account a little for the strange conduct.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 07:54 AM
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57. He just had to fart.
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321Outright Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 03:39 PM
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61. "just another moment in the spotlight.... please?...."
"soon i'll just be a footnote..."
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 03:54 PM
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65. that made me literally LOL n/t
:rofl:
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321Outright Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 03:42 PM
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62. is this on youtube yet? i'd like to see it n/t
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 03:50 PM
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64. We really needed Hunter S. Thompson for this election.
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