I'm fearful the assasination plot is a forcast of things to come =(.

[LynneSin]

For 8 years I've been really angry with the George W. Bush administration and I know I have not been alone. But for me, my way to vent that anger has been protest with thousands at various events both locally and nationally. As much as any of us did not like Bush, I strongly doubt that any of us would wish true physical harm against him.

But I read this anger that people are expressing towards Obama and this is not normal anger but more along the lines of rage. The type of rage where someone would try something really stupid just to 'fix the problem' so to speak. I realize this is not the nature of those who support Bush and/or McCain, but they have an extremely scary group of supporters out there that are so extreme they would consider something like an assassination plot.

Why such anger in their heart ESPECIALLY since many of them also proclaim their faith in God & Jesus?

[Poiuyt]

1. We need to send good vibes to the Secret Service

[LynneSin]

4. And that has me more worried - they may be the ones to get hit first before Obama

Why should someone have that much hate in their heart they would do something violent. Our protesting was nothing more than civil disobedience and although there were a few crazies, for the most part there was no violence

[nomorewhopper]

2. i am so nervous too

this election has been very crazed, and we've seen the right brimming with hate.

i am not religious, but i will pray for obama and his family.

[TACstrat]

3. I am not surprised ...

I've said this before, ...

We are about to witness a defining moment in American history which will be greatly resisted by a certain segment of our society. Hate will crawl out from under the rocks it hides under so the light of truth can finally shine on it. Make no mistake, though, this is truly a time of celebration.

[shanti]

23. absolutely!

:hi: the tide has turned. so many of us have been waiting for this moment, so very many....but not the white supremacists. they are afraid that their "piece of the pie" will be going to someone else.

[mkultra]

5. then Obama must be an idiot

i mean, after all, a smart man preparing to run for president would consider this as a possibility. He would weigh the importance of running against the threat to his family and his own life.

Clearly Obama hasn't done this and we should worry for him.

Or maybe we should consider that he is smart and that if he choses not to worry, then neither should we.

[Lisa0825]

6. Fear cannot prevent us from moving forward.

Michelle and Barack are brave and strong, and we have to be brave and strong and move forward with them. This kind of fear will never be dissipated until the barrier is broken... not just once, but over and over again. The more that having people of color and women (or other targeted groups) in high leadership becomes ROUTINE, the less of a target they will be.

[skooooo]

7. Things will settle down after the election is over.

:hi:

[RamboLiberal]

24. No it won't - we'll still have the hate-mongers on Radio & TV

stirring the passions for the next 4 years. You know they won't limit themselves to critizing policies but will still get as close to racism as they dare and will still trot out every crackpot theory and author they can. Look at how they went after the Clintons!

I think we will have to provide the public outcry against them.

[DeadElephant_ORG]

8. a group, whether a small, or even a lone nut, could set fire to a national tinderbox.

Example: if it had not been resolved so quickly, the "B-girl" thing could have been explosive.

I am VERY concerned, and watching for signs.

[budkin]

9. It will be but Obama has already known that for a long time.

[GetTheRightVote]

10. I and my older children have been abused by Repubs on several occasions

They are a brutal group and will use force to get their way is my own opinion.
Repubs do not like to lose. I hate to tell you some of the passages I have heard from some of them. They are not a nice group to deal with when it comes to what they want period.

:grr::grr::grr::grr:

[undergroundpanther]

14. And that behavior

is sociopathic. Look at the tenets of conservatism, you will find it is all built to excuse and promote hierarchy,psychopathy,authoritarianism and narcissism. Three bad personality traits that make sure you cannot deal with republicans without getting hurt or having things twisted by them. It's in the personality ,as in who they are, that makes republicans so manipulating,ruthless,callous and vicious when you have to 'relate' to them.They abuse because they are socially and personality wise,regressed..As their beliefs, politics, policies and behavior is regressive too.

[undergroundpanther]

11. It's kinda simple really.

Some people in the republican party want freedom FROM the social contract.Freedom to abuse manipulate,steal and screw people over and get away with it.

The tenets of conservatism are basically excuses to justify why SOME are entitled and others lessors.

If you consider a person with no conscience no ability to feel guilt shame or love,you have the republican party.The psychopath party. No I don't mean the entire party is cheats,manipulators, bullies or gun toting maniacs, but a SIGNIFICANT amount of the GOP have people in there with personality types that show signs of authoritarianism,sociopath or narcissism.None of these traits help the person live in peace with others.So they seek to destroy anything that would limit them,put boundaries on how much they can take,what they do to others etc.Everything to republicans boils down to self and everything else is a zero sum economic kind of transaction.They form relationships out of self interest and to control for the most part.They have social tunnel vision.They only see a small circle of people as being real people.Everyone else outside their limited circle is interference with their schemes or dupes to be used.


Republicans fear Progressives because they are socially regressed. Liberals for the most part lack these three bad personality types.Observe liberal people are more willing to help others,someone without expecting returns as if offering help was a economic transaction. The relationships formed by liberals are more accepting,not so threatened by difference,open people are not motivated to get into a relationship for for control or possession but for mutual benefits,and love.
Most of all what scares Republicans about Dem's is how we do not see greed or ambition by itself as a valid justification or reason to permit others suffering,But republicans DO. Seems We do not see reality as a republican does.This has been a great thing and a thing that has gotten us screwed by the ruthlessness of the socially regressed GOP. We seek to strengthen the social safety net and to encourage social awareness and respect for boundaries,diversity fairness and want to reinforce the social contract and make clear boundaries so all are free but all are also responsible for what they do with that freedom.

Republicans want all the freedom but to have none of the accountability for their choices,when they harm others.Republicans do not get the deeper meaning of basic concepts like justice.

Republicans do not want the fetters on their greed or rage they resent the social contact even as they benefit from it.
Republicans are ethically stunted people. And socially malignant.

And they hate because they can,some of McCain's rhetoric is almost like "permission" to some of them,to cause harm,they do not get it because of their distorted personalities,that they are screwing themselves as they would try to impress the one they think is their 'superior'.The republicans are hierarchical people.

Alot of Dem's are not authoritarians or over-obedient .
Some of us , like me are Anti-authoritarian and understand the purpose and reason behind the social contract and how vital it is to humanity's survival.

[Motown_Johnny]

12. This kinda shit happened around the convention too... I think the Secret Service has their shit

together pretty well.

Am I concerned? of course. Nobody bats 1.000


Am I worried? not really. If I was I would drive myself crazy

[undergroundpanther]

15. I can't stress over it either

But..I know for damn sure racism is not dead in this country and some people because of who they are, they lack a conscience or willingness to see faults in themselves they will do anything to win or get their way.These kind of people are fucked up and the republican party is thier'haven'.McCain's bullshit is not helping calm things down it is not reasonable,palin too is inciting shit by proxy. They do this by not reining in repug followers inciting things.So they get the rage they are looking for by proxy,you know the 'ole plausible deni ability thing? It's the bully's best Friend?

[Ichingcarpenter]

13. I'm glad ... you wrote this ... there is no word called.." assasination"

Thanks for posting a nonsense word in your title.

[black light poster]

16. Vibes are fine but send the Secret Service more.

Send them budget support.

Contact your Congressional delegation... Senators or Rep or both... and request that they look into if the Secret Service needs anything at all. To include more agents. Maybe even a lot more agents.

There are any number of white supremacist organizations in America and many of them are also also paramilitary. Paramilitary types know firearms, hell they obsess over firearms, and lot of those guys have advanced skills. Now throw in the fact that a .50 cal sniper rifle can kill from, I forget what, 1.5 to 2 miles away... just insane distances. Lighter sniper bullets can too.

So that's just the organized, paramilitary racists. Then there are also a LOT of hateful yahoos ranging across big swaths of the country who are experienced and very good shots with scoped deer rifles. And as we've seen confirmed from the hatred that has boiled to the surface in the past several months, quite a few people out there don't have a good grasp on reality. So right now there are bound to already be any number of very bad, active combinations of deep, irrational hatred and gun skills in some guys who might be concluding they don't at all mind the idea of being the next James Earle Ray.

The number of "there's a bullet with Obama's name on it" leads that Secret Service agents are running down right now must be large. Hundreds or thousands of those will be nothing for every one that has any serious intent behind it, but they've got to work through the hundreds and thousands to find the one. And you need a small army of agents out following those leads wherever they go, while other agents protect the president (and others) in close.

I'm serious when I say that the Secret Service now might need twice the personnel it needed under Dubya. It might need three times the people. If it takes that, then we double and triple the size of the agency, dammit. As a nation we must do whatever it takes to keep our guy alive. This already is BY FAR the biggest challenge the Secrety Service has ever faced, and they know it.

I say all this not to freak people out but to encourage you to contact your Congressmen and ask them to proactively inquire into the resources the Secret Service might need. We want our guy serving his full two terms and dying decades from now, an old man in bed with grandchildren around him.

That's what I'm telling my Congressional delegation.

I don't think I have enough posts yet to start a thread on this theme, but if anybody else thinks they might want to, you're invited.

[4lbs]

17. Well, it's something that has to be lived with.

I mean come on, remember Reagan's first term and the assassination attempt then? That was an attack at an older, WHITE, male. Remember how close he came to actually dying? Remember Jim Brady, who was permanently disabled because of it?

Stressing or worrying about something you yourself can't control is pretty much worthless.

[Essene]

18. there were at least 3 assassination plots on bush... let's be realistic

if obama trusts the secret service, then i will too.

[fortyfeetunder]

19. They are no better than some leaders in 3rd world countries...

who resist democracy and change.

[ShortnFiery]

20. Oh stop! All people in the public spotlight need to be concerned but NOT obsessed. eom

[grantcart]

21. It is a forcast - lots of idiots are going to get arrested by the Secret Service

and none of them are going to get within a mile of Obama.

Now settle down.

[grantcart]

22. It is a forcast - lots of idiots are going to get arrested by the Secret Service

and none of them are going to get within a mile of Obama.

Now settle down.