For many evangelicals, it will be the end of the world if Obama wins

[davepc]

QUIETLY SPOKEN, religiously and politically conservative, and living in the heartland of evangelical Christianity in the US, Daniel Lopez pondered the end of time that could come if Barack Obama becomes president.

"When I think of it, it brings to mind the prophecies that the Bible tells us about," said Lopez, sitting in the shade outside Focus on the Family's headquarters in Colorado Springs, Colorado.

"On the one hand, it is exciting for us as conservatives because we can actually see what God prophesied coming about; but on the other hand, it is frustrating to see somebody become president who is a blatant liar."

...

The evangelicals believe the world is swimming against a tide of filth: promiscuity; homosexuality; and the curse of relativism.

Eight years ago, and again in 2004, the evangelicals, who number up to one-quarter of the US population, were on a political roll, and were crucial to the election of George W Bush.

Today, they are still influential, as can be judged by Republican presidential candidate John McCain's selection of Alaska governor Sarah Palin as running mate.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2008/1028/1225061111621.html

Since they believe the result of the election is pre-ordained by God, I think they'll best be served by sitting this one out and not voting.

[RagAss]

1. Time to start mixing the Kool-Aid, eh?

[liberalmuse]

5. I'll gladly send them the cyanide.

Jesus Hussein Christ. :eyes:

[NRaleighLiberal]

2. Well, many of them have been hankerin' for the Rapture. You betcha!

[The Traveler]

3. **small voice**

Ya know, he does go over the top a bit rhetorically but I know one evangelical preacher who was a Marine medic in Vietnam whose preaching of liberation and salvation I as a pale assed Georgia redneck find quite appealing ...

Just sayin'.

Trav

[ClayZ]

12. I liked all of Rev Wright's sermons that I heard.

I listened to several.

Usually I am more the Zen type. Motorcycle Maintenance, Art, etc.

[The Traveler]

26. We are on the same track

I find Zen in my 91 Camaro ... but whenever I turn a wrench Pirsig leaps to mind. "Are you teaching Quality ..."

I kinda like Jeremiah. I get where he is coming from. He is actually a brazen American. And all I can say to the dude is "Semper Fi, bud". As near as I can tell, he remains faithful.

Trav

[davepc]

22. "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come." (Matthew 24:36, 40

Apparently these fundamentalists know more about the 2nd coming then Jesus.

They are blasphemers when they do things such as calling Obama the anti-Christ.

[The Traveler]

28. Blasphemers and idolators

Their god is printed on green paper.

Time now to come salvage for our brothers and sisters. It begins, but ONLY begins, now with the election of Barack Obama. That event signals a commencement of work ... not an accomplishment.

Trav

[jwirr]

34. And they definitely have forgotten to watch for the wolves in sheeps

clothing. The wolves like bushie, cheney, fallwell, dobson, palin, etc. Hates to see a liar elected? For God's sake has he listened to bushie and mcshame and sarah?

[HopeFor2006]

4. Better yet

They should vote for Obama and help to bring about the rapture!

[cliffordu]

6. Personally, I'm glad I'm

swimming IN the tide of filth: promiscuity; homosexuality; and the curse of relativism.



I might be a fuckin' socialist, too....

[Warren Stupidity]

7. So then, if I understand their religiousity, they ought to be ecstatic.

Off to heaven they go, right?

[BlooInBloo]

8. I don't mind them leaving this world. I wish them well.

[The Stranger]

9. Fundamentalism is mental illness, and Lopez is mentally ill.

[tedoll78]

10. GOOD.

Now it'll be THEIR turn to sweat and fret over their favorite Supreme Court justices' health conditions.

We've hoped and prayed that Stevens and Ginsburg would make it.

Now they get to worry about whether or not 72-year-old Scalia will finally give-up his love of red meat and cigarettes.
Now they get to worry about whether or not 72-year-old Kennedy will decide that he's tired of being the swing vote.

Sucks to be them!

[The_Casual_Observer]

11. It's been the end of the world for the last 8 years, so it's their turn now.

[TheKentuckian]

13. I'm tired of these kooks being called Christians

or born again.

If a person's heart was filled with the love of Christ there wouldn't be room for all the fear and hatred.

Beware anger, fear, aggression...The dark side of the Force are they.

Hitler said he was a Christian too, his Grandmother was a Jew. Those factors didn't change much. Like Sammi Jo The Stooge, he said he was a plumber but that didn't make it true.

This non-denominational and non-traditional Christian says a big ole FUCK YOU to the lying hypocrites.

[RagAss]

17. Where's Jim Jones when we need him?

[nolabels]

39. The fear of knowing is often greater than the unknown.........

when one has a lazy mind. The problem with many of these folks is they don't want to see that philosophy has grappled with most of the issues a lot longer than their religion has been in existence.

Fatalism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatalism



Introduction To " ORIGIN OF SPECIES ACCORDING TO THE BUDDHA "
http://evolution-becoming.com/intro.html

[truthisfreedom]

14. The use of the words "blatant liar" is beyond ironic, beyond painfully ironic...

beyond comprehension, really.

[Webster Green]

27. That's what I was thinking..

Probably a huge supporter of the war-chimp, whom I doubt has ever has uttered a truthful statement in his life. :crazy:

[Starbucks Anarchist]

15. Let's help Obama win, then.

:evilgrin:

[boppers]

16. So, if Obama gets in, it's because of God's will?

Mysterious ways, indeed.

[RagAss]

19. They wouldn't know God's Will if it bit their asses !

[boppers]

31. God's Will...... bites asses?

Is that how Ted Haggard got so confused?

[LooseWilly]

42. Evolved Monkey See God Do...

true revelation... and crank....

[calmblueocean]

18. And for many Christians, it will be the dawn of a new day when Obama wins

I really think these crazy evangelicals are on their way out. They reek of fanaticism, of delusion, of judgmentalism. Who wants to be around that? Who wants to raise their kids with that?

I expect us to see a big rise in liberal Christianity and liberal chuches over the next decade as most normal Christians run as far away from the crazies as they can get.

[frogcycle]

24. but the "normal Christians"

don't speak out against them any better than do the "normal" Muslims against the taliban-types.

I have little respect for either of these "normal" groups.

[mwb970]

49. The Silent Majorities. /nt

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

40. At least we aren't judgmental here.

[matchstick]

20. let thoses freaks leave this country then!!!!!

[frogcycle]

21. the problem in a nutshell

"it is exciting for us as conservatives because we can actually see what God prophesied coming about; "

This idiot confuses being a gullible superstitious looney with being a political conservative.

That, of course, is what destroyed the political conservative (think Barry Goldwater) movement - Nixon's "southern strategy" when they recruited these batshit-crazy snake handlers to get them some dumb votes to throw against the FDR-progressives who were offending them with "bleeding-heart-liberal" social programs. Well, you reap what you sow, motherfuckers. YOU invited these cretins into your party, so now you can all go up in fucking smoke together. We could actually USE a 25% reduction in population in this country. Improve the environment, reduce energy consumption...

[JackBeck]

23. Rapture them the fuck out of here.

Their contribution to our great country has left us gasping for progress for far too many years. Get them out of the process. Now.

Hopefully the damage they have inflicted can be repaired.

[Matariki]

25. They've been playing this game for CENTURIES!

you'd think they'd get a clue...

but one 'end of the world' after another keeps passing them and they get right back up and get excited about the next one.

[boppers]

30. Hey, it's been going on for a bit....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfulfilled_religious_prophecies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_eschatology

[Neshanic]

29. "End Time Acres" a master planned community with a master plan we all know.

Bonus rooms for the tribulation over the garage 50% off.

[GrizzlyMan]

32. If only they could see how much better the world would be without them

If they're worried, by all means, I hope they feel it necessary to drive their gas guzzling SUVs off the nearest cliff. I'll pay for the gas.

[mw]

33. Repeat back to them: it's God's will that Obama won. nt

nt

[Monk06]

35. Well I guess they're going to have to go back to Revelations to find out

what they missed.

[Amonester]

36. I hope it's true, I mean, they can leave for their fantasy land...

anytime they want. And if they do (like I beleive they will... :sarcasm:), I'll be VERY HAPPY for them.

[TygrBright]

37. Waitaminnit, waitaminnit..... Wasn't Y2K "The End of the World"?

uh... I seem to remember at least three "Ends of the World" during my lifetime. Heavily promoted by limo-driving teevee preachers.

The world is always ending according to SOMEBODY.

The millenialist nutjobs just depend on it for their bread and butter, so they get their helots jizzed up about it as often as possible, based on any excuse they can latch onto.

The amusing thing about this behavior cycle is that the more spittle-frothingly strident they get about it, the tighter they get their followers wound...

...the greater the disillusionment when, finally, one day, one of them wakes up and realizes, "Shit, wasn't the world supposed to have ended by now? Like, twice, already? FOR SURE this time?"

And they drift away and stop going to church altogether.

Mind you, there are plenty who can be jizzed up over and over again, but sooner or later, after the seventh, eighth, whatever "for sure this time end of the world," they lose interest.

Especially if there's something good on American Idol.

rationally,
Bright

[Rosa Luxemburg]

38. these people aren't really Christians

[TlalocW]

41. The tough part

Is waiting (hopefully) 8 years of President Obama to go up to them on January 20, 2017 and say, "So, how were the end times for ya? They go pretty well?"

TlalocW

[Window]

43. These hateful make-believe Christians will be so surprised when

the rapture comes and their mean asses are left behind to rot in hell.

[Indiana_Dem]

46. Bingo!

They will be saying Lord! Lord! And the Lord will say "I never knew you" (paraphrasing the bible)

[d.amber]

44. Going to be tough for them when things get better

You know world leaders start talking together and working together...the enonomy gets better and then end doesn't happen.

[Withywindle]

45. It's the ultimate blasphemy.

By the terms of their own faith, they're trying to force the hand of God and make Him act according to their wishes. They think that by their ultra-specialized, cultish interpretation of the Bible (a form of fortune-telling as they make it, and WAY more out there than any of my Wiccan fellows would sign off on) they can bring about the Kingdom of God.

They can't. By the tenets of their own Scriptures, only God can do that. Every single friggin, generation in human history has had an element that wanted to believe the End Times were coming in their day. It's human nature to want your generation to be special.

Presidential elections aren't determined by God any more than football games are, but so many people want so desperately for both to be.

UGH. GROW THE FUCK UP.

:scared:

[Window]

47. "Thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven."

Thy will, not their will.

[ipfilter]

52. From what I have seen

most Wiccan's understand the Bible better than most so-called Christians.

[mitchum]

48. Happy trails to them

[Alter Ego]

50. Their political clout will be gone. It will be a joyous day for the separation

of church and state.

[mtnsnake]

51. This would be the perfect time for those evangelicals & all racists to form their own country

in some remote corner of the world and leave the rest of us alone to live out our lives in relative peace and harmony.

[stuntcat]

53. their delusion is pure Evil

nothing good about them, just a mass brain-fuck for people who need to feel superior somehow.

People's manic episodes in church are just mass hysteria, exactly like what the Nazi's caused.

:puke: Earth-Rapers using "God"

[NoSheep]

54. Good! Bring on the fucking rapture.