Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Muhahaha. Stick it Zogby. You want to talk about individual nights polling? Let's talk about it.

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 06:41 AM
Original message
Muhahaha. Stick it Zogby. You want to talk about individual nights polling? Let's talk about it.
Edited on Sat Nov-01-08 06:42 AM by zlt234
In Research 2000, the last 3 nights in order were Wed O+5, Thurs O+8, and Fri O+9. Looks like Obama is going to win in a landslide.

:rofl:

In all seriousness, individual polling doesn't usually reflect anything. Of course, if there was sudden massive movement from one candidate to another, the individual polling would reflect that, but the converse is not true. Just because individual day polling swings wildly doesn't mean anything has swung in reality.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 06:43 AM
Response to Original message
1. I like Zogby's numbers
Zogby always uses weighted party ID based upon the prior election. So he actually has a higer percentage of Republicans in his polls than Democrats this year.

If you weight correctly, Obama should be upo by about 12 in Zogby's poll.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 06:46 AM
Response to Reply #1
3. Research 2000
has a breakdown of 35% dems and 26% repubs....not an accurate breakdown in my opinion....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 06:48 AM
Response to Reply #3
5. Based upon registrations, it's dead on accurate. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 06:50 AM
Response to Reply #5
6. WE KNOW THAT...
there are more registered dems than repubs...problem is too many dems do not go and vote....the problem in 2004 and past elections...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 06:51 AM
Response to Reply #6
7. This is NOT 2004
The sooner you realize that, the better you'll feel.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 06:52 AM
Response to Reply #7
8. right...
Edited on Sat Nov-01-08 06:54 AM by dennis4868
but do you really think that in 4 years the breakdown will jump from even amount of dems and repubs voting to a +9 for dems?

I wonder what the breakdown is with other daily polls....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 06:57 AM
Response to Reply #8
9. Yes, actually. I do.
In fact, it could be as much as 12 or 13 percent as a difference.

The reasoning is the number of REpublicans who have jumped ship to the Dems. This presents a strong case for at least a 9% difference for a few reasons. First, when a REpubican re-registers as a Dem, it alters that difference by 2 rather than 1 voter (-1 Rep +1 Dem). Second, these people who have jumped ship are highly likely to vote. Third, voter identification as independent has remained static which tends to suggest much of the alteration comes from REpublicans jumping ship to the Dems. Finally, voter enthusiasm on the Democratic side is higher than it has been in decades which would suggest Republican turnout will be depressed, thus accounting for a disparity in voter ID being on par with the registration disparity.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 06:44 AM
Response to Original message
2. "SHOCK POLL: OBAMA +9 YESTERDAY!" (in bolded red 44 pt. font)
We should expect this headline on sludge's site, right?

Oh, we can probably expect Obama's edge to climb tomorrow, when Wed's +5 falls off.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Schulzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 06:46 AM
Response to Original message
4. WE are the ones who can prove Zogby wrong. If Democrats turn out big this time -
as early voting numbers across the country are suggesting - his poll will be off by a healthy margin. He is using a 2004 model..
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nygrl224 Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 07:01 AM
Response to Original message
10. I'm new, but I just looked at Zogby's numbers and it was 49-44 Obama
am I not looking at the right thing? even when you go to Drudge and click their link saying McCain is leading, it takes me to the page that says 49-44
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 07:35 AM
Response to Reply #10
11. 49-44 is an average of the last 3 nights. McCain was leading in last night's polling
and Obama was leading in the other two nights.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 07:37 AM
Response to Reply #10
12. Welcome aboard the DU!
:hi:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 30th 2024, 06:45 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC