"90% of juvenile delinquents chew gum. Clearly, gum chewing causes delinquency."

[renie408]

To me this is the same thing as saying that 'blacks' are against 'gays' or that whites obviously prefer the white guy over the black guy. There are so many OTHER factors that inform a person's life and decisions than the color of their skin. Is it race or religion? Is it race or education? Is it race or local culture?

Maybe it is a little of all of the above. Maybe people are more complicated than some think.

[Ioo]

1. Do you have exit polls showing that they were at the time of the crime?

Just asking....

[SoonerPride]

2. Bigotry is an uncomplicated thing.

Sorry.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

3. I think that's pretty much her point.

:rofl:

[msallied]

4. Did you know that a lot of kids eat ice cream in the summer and also are more prone to drowning?

Clearly, ice cream causes kids to drown.

[endthewar]

6. Or does the drowning cause kids to eat ice cream?

Looks like somebody is assuming that time moves in a certain direction. :rofl:

[msallied]

13. ...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Ioo]

5. They have a name for what you are doing - "Specious Reasoning". Bush Toolbox

Lisa Simpson: This rock keeps away lions

Homer: How does your rock work

Lisa: It doesn't, but you don't see any lions around do you?

Homer: Lisa, I would like to buy your rock...


Specious Reasoning

[renie408]

7. Actually, it isn't what I am doing. It is what a lot of other people here are doing.

I am trying to point it out.

[Ioo]

8. Disagree - There is some data behind what it being said... sliced, but data none the less

I mean if you look at the data, then what they are saying is true, maybe not fair, but true...

75% of AA Females and 70% of AA Males... that is the data.

[renie408]

9. So, you are saying that because they are BLACK, they are anti-gay?

[Ioo]

11. I am saying, there is data that blacks in CA are not as supportive of Prop 8.

note I did not say anti-gay, or even gay marriage... I said prop 8, because I HAVE that data. Note also I did not say ALL blacks, but those in CA, because I have that data...

Look,I am not for painting everything with a broad brush, but that said, you can not also run from the data.

[kenny blankenship]

10. Just for your peace of mind,

I don't think anybody has said that being African American causes you to hate gays and vote to single them out for discrimination.

You're Welcome!

[TheKentuckian]

12. White instituted, funded, and led efforts being blamed on blacks

is just a way to have somewhere to point the finger during a tantrum.

It also allows for a way to ignore hundreds of thousands of white votes. When its a white problem, its that some people suck but when a way can be found to blame minorities the whole group gets the ire.

Same as it ever was, with a few people.

You can be right as rain but if you will not bridge the gap to even those reaching out to you then it should be little surprise that one would be subject to isolation. Witch hunts are seldom a viable long range strategy.

I'm getting an impression that eyes are off the prize, its easy to do distraction is the ultimate obstacle. In some minds this is melting down into a toxic us versus them and that path is at best a detour from the goal.

The roadblocks in the "black community" are similar, if not the same as those spread throughout the general population.

[blondeatlast]

14. I'll repeat as often as needed: the real evil here is the cynical use of a valuable tool

of democracy as a cheap and easy GOTV tactic.

But it's not sexy to talk about it--and since we don't talk about it, it works.

Ah, well. Maybe 2010 (when the RW will resurrect the old "moral" issues and likely find a couple of new ones to exploit...