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Flash Bazbo Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 08:29 PM
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Using Obama fear mongering to kill Net Neutrality
This guy is trying to get Obama scent on the Net Neutrality issue

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=Mjc5YzFiYjdiZGM1MjE1OGJjZDExNDlkM2IwMjQ3YzM=

Next Up for Nationalization: the Internet
By Phil Kerpen

...

President-elect Obama and most congressional Democrats — under pressure from groups like Free Press, MoveOn.org, and corporate heavyweight Google — favor a network-neutrality regime. In its strictest form, such a regime would require every bit that travels over a network to be treated the same way. That might sound fair in theory, but it means big problems in practice. If broadband providers can’t manage their network traffic, they can’t offer high-quality, high-value services that are free from the degradation of bandwidth hogs — like teenagers who download huge amounts of bootleg movies, music, and games from file-sharing networks.
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 08:40 PM
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1. Horseshit! (Talking about 'Net Neutrality, not Obama)
Edited on Thu Nov-13-08 08:42 PM by apnu
Net Neutrality is about classifying users into "haves" and "have mores" Not the other way around. I've been on cable since its earliest days, and throttling me because I don't pay my ISP "enough" to guarantee a decent quality of service, or rather, a "tip" for providing good service is just robbery plain and simple.

Having been on cable, back in the day when it was like one big hub, and one person on that hub could ruin everybody's day (its not like that now, most cable networks are fully switched) it wasn't that big of a deal. Caps are one thing, throttling back users who are abuse on a case by case basis is another, but punishing users who "might" abuse the system, or just punish them because they aren't paying an extra fee is horseshit.

The real problem with 'net neutrality, is that the physical infrastructure of the Internet is badly in need of repair. The ISPs don't want to pay for it, so they're looking for a way to hoist the cost off on the general public, so the CEO's can all have solid gold showers installed in their cabanas while upgrading their own part of the network. Its robbery, plain and simple.
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Flash Bazbo Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 08:54 PM
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3. Regardless of where you fall on this issue...
you've got to gawp in astonishment at the bald-faced manipulation in trying to make this an Obama issue. I've already seen this article on other boards in support of the "Obama is the new Hitler" meme.
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 09:00 PM
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4. doesn't make me gawp. I presumed it would happen.
They're already trying to blame Obama for everything under, and including the sun. I fully expect, in the coming days, to see Obama (before he's sworn in, naturally) be blamed for the Sun's loss of mass as it blasts particles into outer space.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 08:45 PM
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2. The entire anti-neutrality bandwagon
is about censorship and control, with a healthy dose of greed from cable providers thrown in there.

Cable companies want your $$$$ for TV and to upgrade their services as little as possible and the corporate media wants to control the flow of information.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 09:02 PM
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5. "Manage their network traffic"
In other words, they don't have enough bandwidth, and can't keep up with demand. If a power company operated like this, they would be out of business. I don't expect broadband providers to offer infinite bandwidth to residential customers, but the throughput caps that have been floated are extremely crippling in themselves. I consider something like Hulu to be a "high-value service" but some of these caps out there would make that site useless.
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