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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:13 AM
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Is Georgie Bush planning to flee to Paraguay?
Looks like Georgie has bought himself around 100,000
acres in Paraguay. Nice place for retirement,
especially is you're facing trial in your home country
on a number of inconvenient and ugly issues.

Bush Paraguay Land grab Incites Unease

Asuncion (Prena Latina) The land grab project of US
President George W. Bush in Chaco, Paraguay, has
generated considerable discomfort both politically
and environmentally.

The news circulating the continent about plans to
buy 98,840 acres of land in Chaco, Paraguay, near
the Triple Frontier (Boliva, Brazil, Paraguay) is the
talk of the town in these countries.


http://www.plenglish.com/article.asp?ID=%7B2DA7BAE4-061B-49B6-983F-3D69A4396E37%7D)&language=EN




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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:15 AM
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1. Is there an extradition treaty?
If not, Hillary will need to negotiate one.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:17 AM
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3. No extradition from Paraguay.
That, and the fact his land is on one the largest aquifers in South America make me think georgie will probably be heading south.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:23 AM
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7. Yep - or jut go down there and drag his sad ignorant ass back up here.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:16 AM
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2. No, to Houston.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:21 AM
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5. Houston? pffft he is dumping that town for Dallas
he and Laura have already alluded to it

They aren't even really Houstonites

and the "ranch" ? :rofl: that thing has served its purpose. He will probably keep it since WE are paying for it.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:33 AM
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10. I think Laura gave up on Houston after the hurricane.
He'll probably turn the ranch into a land grant or something and take a big tax write off.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:18 AM
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4. 100,000 acres next door to His Highness and Holy Man, Rev. Moon.
Sorry, I've got to get some housework done, so I'm not going to look that one up for you, but I think it was in Raw Story the first time I saw it months and months ago.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:22 AM
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6. No, because nothing will happen to him. At this point he should be more worried
Edited on Sat Nov-22-08 11:32 AM by Guy Whitey Corngood
of his crazy old mom who'll probably beat the shit out of him just like she used to back in the day. You know, for dragging the "family name" even more through the mud. Other than that the little weasel will have a worry free life.

Shit, even Pol Pot only got house arrest.
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:27 AM
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8. Fine with me, can we get him to go NOW? n/t
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 11:28 AM
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9. I remember reading that this land was ato one of the biggest local aquafers.
There is water control involved in this land grab as well.

http://www.grandinite.com/2007/08/24/bush-buys-99000-acre-compound-on-aquifer-in-paraguay/

Here’s a fun question for Tony Snow: Why might the president and his family need a 98.840-acre ranch in Paraguay protected by a semi-secret U.S. military base manned by American troops who have been exempted from war-crimes prosecution by the Paraguyan government?

Interestingly, as the article mentions, Bush will be living right beside Reverend Moon, as Jeff Wells has blogged before.

The Governor of Alto Paraguay, Erasmo Rodríguez Acosta has admitted to hearing that George Bush Sr. owns land in the Chaco region of Paraguay, in Paso de Patria. Acosta says that rumor has it that Bush owns near to 70 thousand hectares (173,000 acres) as part of an ecological reserve and/or ranch. However, the governor said he had no documents to prove the rumor. Acosta said that some stories credited the land to the Fundación Patria, which Bush would be a member of.
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livvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 12:14 PM
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11. Extradition treaty with Paraguay, 1998...
Has there been any updates or changes since then?

snippet of the treaty

The Treaty marks a significant step in bilateral cooperation between
the United States and Paraguay. Upon entry into force, it
would supersede the extradition treaty currently in force between
the two countries, signed at Asuncion on May 24, 1973. The current
treaty has become outmoded, and the new treaty will provide
significant improvements. The new treaty can be implemented
without new legislation.
Article I obligates each Party to extradite to the other, pursuant
to the provisions of the Treaty, any person sought in the Requesting
State for trial or punishment for an extraditable offense.
Article II(1) defines an extraditable offense as one punishable
under the laws in both Parties by deprivation of liberty for a maximum
period of more than one year, or by a more severe penalty.
Use of such a ‘‘dual criminality’’ clause rather than a list of offenses
covered by the Treaty obviates the need to renegotiate or
supplement the Treaty as additional offenses become punishable
under the laws of both Parties.
Article II(3) defines an extraditable offense to include also an attempt
or a conspiracy to commit, or the participation in the commission
of, an extraditable offense.


more of it:

http://www.oas.org/juridico/mla/en/traites/en_traites-ext-usa-pry.pdf
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 01:06 PM
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12. 1. Paraguay just elected a leftist president who wants the U.S. military out of his country,
and who is aligned, politically, with the strongest leftist democracies of South America. In winning the election this year, the new president, Fernando Lugo--the beloved "bishop of the poor"--overturned 61 years of rightwing rule, including a long, heinous, U.S.-backed dictatorship. There was a big celebration at his inauguration, with all the many leftist leaders of South America in attendance. (And there is a great vid going around of Lugo and Hugo Chavez doing a rendition of "Todo Cambia" ("Everything Changes")--a popular S/A song--on stage at the inauguration party.)

2. When Lugo was elected, his neighbor Evo Morales, sent him this message: "Welcome to the Axis of Evil."

3. Paraguay rescinded its non-extradition law; also its law immunizing the U.S. military.

4. Paraguay is a member of the Bank of the South (one of Chavez's best ideas--local control of finance and development).

5. I have yet to see any corroboration of the Bush Cartel land purchase in Paraguay. The rumor has been around for quite some time. It's still only a rumor.

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This is not to say that Fernando Lugo, a former bishop, wouldn't accommodate Bush for reasons that the left might find unfathomable. Lugo is a highly unusual politician. He is a 'Liberation Theology' priest (the Church is obligated to join the political struggles of the poor), and the genuine article. Lived all his life with the poor. Identifies with the poor. Not a hypocritical bone--nor an ambitious bone, nor a cynical bone--in his body. For this very reason--that he has a more open heart than a normal politician--it is conceivable that he would consider it an act of charity not to oppose Bush living in his country. (He recently visited the White House, by the way--a courtesy that the Bushwhacks did not extend to his friend and neighbor Evo Morales, president of Bolivia.) Conceivable--but not too likely. The trend in South America is to bring mass murderers and torturers to justice. And Lugo is very much aligned with those who are doing so. He might also have the reason of some benefit to the poor. He once said that "Paraguay is neither left nor right--Paraguay is POOR!" He feels a great obligation, indeed, to bootstrap Paraguay's poor. (It is one of the poorest countries in the hemisphere.) And he may take help wherever he can get it. However, once again, the trend in South America--especially among his closest allies--is for South American countries to band together and help each other, and to reject the bribes, and 'free trade' garbage, and U.S. military 'war on drugs' booty, and World Bank/IMF loan sharks, and all the corrupt ties that have violated the sovereignty of South American countries, and harmed the poor, for so long.

One other thing: Lugo's transformative election as president, this year, may have been a key element in the defeat of the Bushwhack plot to instigate a fascist, white supremicist insurrection against Evo Morales' government in Bolivia, which played out this September--in fascist riots and murders--and failed. The plan may have been to provide U.S. military support for the coup from Paraguay. (Bolivia is landlocked.) All of South America united behind Morales when he threw the U.S. ambassador and the DEA out of Bolivia. Chile called a meeting of UNASUR--the new South American "Common Market" (sans the U.S.)--which immediately and unanimously backed Morales, and has taken effective action to prevent the split-up of Bolivia, and the return to the rule of law of the secessionist provinces (which are adjacent to Paraguay).

So this is some of the background and current circumstances in which a potential Bush refuge in Paraguay should be considered. Paraguay has changed--dramatically and definitively, and is now in accord with the rest of the continent, in which an awesome, peaceful, democratic, leftist movement has largely succeeded. Bush would be 'persona non grata' virtually everywhere, except Colombia--the narco/fascist state supported by $6 BILLION in U.S.-Bushwhack military aid--the biggest U.S. military aid package on earth outside of Israel. Colombia is the most dangerous place on earth for union leaders and other leftists, but it is the safest place on earth for mass murderers. Bush would be welcome by the fascist thugs running Colombia, and might be safe in an armed-to-the-teeth compound there--and would have an assured supply of cocaine as well.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 03:46 PM
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13. Is this for real.....and if it is why in the hell
isn't the MSM reporting that a sitting president has purchased 100,000 acres of land in a foreign country that he has no ancestral ties to?

This is absolutely the weirdest thing I have ever read????????
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