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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 05:22 AM Original message |
If the Huffpo article about Hillary is true, Obama already lost control |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 05:24 AM Response to Original message |
1. Gates will keep an eye on her |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
108. What a sad thought... |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 05:27 AM Response to Original message |
2. LOTS of folks/entities |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 05:33 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Didn't you see the leaked stories where Obama was |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 05:51 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Nope; missed those, |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 05:54 AM Original message |
Ignoring "all that stuff" certainly simplies one's thought process... |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 06:07 AM Response to Original message |
7. I can function fine |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 06:09 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Actually, that'll be "sos" now. And con-grat-u-la-tions on function so well!! |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:18 AM Response to Reply #3 |
17. Uh, the leak said she was a "top contender" for SoS, and that he "spoke to her directly." |
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blue_onyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #3 |
68. Funny how you pick and choose which articles to believe |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 05:54 AM Response to Original message |
5. What makes you think he ever had much of a hold on her? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 05:59 AM Response to Original message |
6. Slow down a bit there tiger. Go nice and orderly-like... |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:17 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. But in that other thread clearly you were insinuating that Obama isn't in control. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #14 |
75. Um, you're supposed to wait until the timer *finishes*. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 06:12 AM Response to Original message |
9. It's amazing watching people... |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:20 AM Response to Reply #9 |
18. It's amazing how powerful they still think the Clintons are. |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:49 AM Response to Reply #18 |
34. What's really amazing |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:22 AM Response to Reply #9 |
19. So which is it? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:25 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. More that you are missing nuances that are just beyond you. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 08:03 AM Response to Reply #19 |
41. perhaps you've mistaken my point |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 08:53 AM Response to Reply #41 |
55. I don't like manipulative people. |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 06:21 AM Response to Original message |
10. Why would Obama feel "forced" to pick Hillary Clinton |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 06:49 AM Response to Original message |
11. The claims in the article |
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mwb970 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:07 AM Response to Original message |
12. This is what happens when the election is over and there's nothing to talk about. |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:09 AM Response to Original message |
13. I think the article's B.S., and here's why... |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:17 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. BINGO! |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:18 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. I see it as a kind of balancing act. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:34 AM Response to Reply #13 |
26. She has no clout in the Senate. |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:51 AM Response to Reply #26 |
35. So can I put you on the record |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 08:51 AM Response to Reply #35 |
54. So nobody is leaking huh? |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 08:55 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. I never said people weren't leaking |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 09:15 AM Response to Reply #56 |
59. I am mad. |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 09:21 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. You're talking in circles |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 09:33 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. I don't think he's weak, I think |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 09:41 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. What's stopping him from |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:00 AM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Maybe he will. I hope so. |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #64 |
72. You misunderstand the job |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #63 |
84. He will announce on his own time when he's good and ready |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #84 |
89. The person I was responding to |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #63 |
107. I think Obama is treating... |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 05:54 PM Original message |
You make it sound like you were |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
115. I trust Obama to make up his own mind too... |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:36 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. All the reports?? |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 12:08 AM Response to Reply #116 |
120. The facts are very clear... |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 07:20 AM Response to Reply #120 |
122. There are no facts |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. You make it sound like you were |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 04:37 PM Response to Reply #35 |
105. What world do you live in? |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 04:39 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. You are misunderstanding -- the poster is saying the opposite |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:05 PM Response to Reply #105 |
110. Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 09:42 PM Response to Reply #110 |
114. But look how she's acting... |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:42 PM Response to Reply #114 |
117. You are seeing nefarious motives |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 12:03 AM Response to Reply #117 |
118. I applaud what he's done so far... |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 07:24 AM Response to Reply #118 |
123. So tell me |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 09:01 AM Response to Reply #13 |
58. because according to the pathology |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 12:05 AM Response to Reply #58 |
119. She ate my puppy! |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #13 |
79. There would be a huge political cost in firing HRC |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #13 |
112. Oh no...More Clinton Drama? |
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elkston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:23 AM Response to Original message |
20. If Obama was going to get punked by Hillary, he would have folded on the VP thing. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:27 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. There could be variables at play that make this version different |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:28 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. As Brzezenski says...you can't fire the VP, but you can fire the SOS. |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:26 AM Response to Original message |
22. Doesn't the SOS serve at the pleasure of the POTUS? |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:38 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. You don't think her behavior is already displeasing him? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:40 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. you see things for what they are. |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:40 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. I don't think he'd appoint her if he didn't want her. Honestly. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:44 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. I don't think she stands out as sos material without engaging in some lobbying |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:44 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. He isn't a wimp, but he is very very politically minded. |
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Rockholm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:15 AM Response to Reply #27 |
66. What behavior are you talking about? |
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LittleApple81 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:28 AM Response to Original message |
25. Obama is a lot smarter,tougher, and ruthless than most people give him credit for. I read an article |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:47 AM Response to Reply #25 |
33. And he is very confident in his abilities to get Hillary under control. |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:55 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. No, what you're saying is |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:58 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. No, those are just the words you want to put in her mouth. |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 08:06 AM Response to Reply #38 |
42. NOBODY can force |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 08:09 AM Response to Reply #42 |
46. There is always political pressure. Don't you remember when OMC was predicting that HRC would be VP |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 08:24 AM Response to Reply #46 |
52. Who's OMC? |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #36 |
96. This is the second time you have tried to argue by putting your words in another's mouth |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:45 AM Response to Original message |
32. I call BS. Hillary had NO leverage. Obama could have pulled the plug on this |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:57 AM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Exactly |
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liberalpress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:59 AM Response to Original message |
39. Just as I suspected |
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happychatter (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
40. not enough evidence there to justify that article's leading notion |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 08:11 AM Response to Reply #40 |
48. That's because there never is evidence. It's always anonymous sources |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 08:12 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Kind of like rumors of certain people being chose for SoS? |
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happychatter (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
43. If anyone has evidence that Obama would actually jeopardize National Security for a political GAME |
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InAbLuEsTaTe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
44. You and me both. |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
45. LOL |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
47. That was a "report" by no journalist. Total BS opinions that sickos are passing off as fact |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 08:14 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Oh, how they long for the good old days... |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 08:11 AM Response to Original message |
49. Obama and his staff knew before they even talked to Hillary that floating her meant picking her |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 08:59 AM Response to Reply #49 |
57. They didn't float her, she floated her. |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
53. Four words: "I don't do cowering." NT |
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brianna69 (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
60. Are people really taking this nonsense seriously |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:10 AM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Apparently, many do -- and thus think PE Obama is a dupe |
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tigereye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
67. god, this is such bullshit! |
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blue_onyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Some people are just obsessed with her |
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MarjorieG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
69. Don't trust the Clintons, but their skills and star power are needed, will be channeled for good. |
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moriah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
71. I'm ignoring the press on this issue until I see it on the Obama website. |
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hileeopnyn8d (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #71 |
74. I think I love you! |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
73. You Believe That Crap? |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #73 |
76. Yeah, I'm amazed some people do. Like Obama is so weak and dumb. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
77. Word on the street is that... |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Does that mean my dvd of "Prince Caspian" that I asked Santa to bring me??? |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #78 |
81. But it's scented coal... |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Maybe |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
80. It's worse, Hillary has implanted a mind control chip in Obama's cortex. |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:57 AM Response to Reply #80 |
82. And here I thought she was really a witch or a hypnotist. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #80 |
93. I heard that she sapped and impurified his precious bodily fluids. n/t |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
85. Although it has been reported that Obama feels "boxed in" by the Clinton leaks, |
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blue_onyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. How do you know it was Clinton leaks? |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. links |
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blue_onyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. That's all gossip |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. Blind eye syndrome is epidemic here at DU, apparently. n/t |
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blue_onyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. Hillary obsession epidemic |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. Those that ignore history are doomed to repeat it. ;) |
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blue_onyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #92 |
97. Yes, she has made mistakes |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. Clinton defense #1: Impugn the source, #2: Make it personal with hostility. |
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blue_onyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. LOL... |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. rinse and repeat |
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blue_onyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. Yes indeed |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. How dare anyone stand in the way of her ambition. By any means necessary. Check. |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
94. Why would Obama even want Hillary? |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. I'm sure this obsession with Hillary Clinton is for exactly |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 03:01 PM Response to Reply #95 |
99. I have no idea what you just said... |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. Here,I'll explain it to you: |
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Liquorice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:15 PM Response to Reply #94 |
111. Obama doesn't seem to care about hawkish views. He chose Biden after all. nt |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
113. Better to have her at State than in the Senate. |
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tandem5 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 01:59 AM Response to Original message |
121. In order to believe such a story you have to also believe |
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snake in the grass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 07:43 AM Response to Original message |
124. I can't go to HuffPo anymore. |
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