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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:05 AM Original message |
I wish some people would understand that we don't want a Democratic Bush. |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
1. Agreed |
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navarth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
2. this is all true BUT |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. I'm not sure that War Crimes Tribunals sends the right message |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:24 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. No, it would send the message that no one is above the law. |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:03 AM Response to Reply #10 |
25. Answering you and #17 and #18 in one post |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #25 |
42. So upholding the Constitution & the law should only be done |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Re. |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #44 |
53. You implied it with this: |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 12:10 AM Response to Reply #44 |
55. We're already there. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 01:54 AM Response to Reply #25 |
57. Unfortunately, Ma'am, The Crimes Are Real, And Justice Ought To Be Vindicated |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 02:07 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. I did say that the crimes were real, when I said this set of comments: |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 02:12 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Those Are Not The Crimes, Ma'am |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 02:15 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Torture policy was and is a crime against humanity |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 02:17 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. They Ought To, Ma'am |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 02:32 AM Response to Reply #63 |
64. I have approached |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 09:27 AM Response to Reply #25 |
67. Prosecuting murder |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #10 |
69. The unfortunate reality is that unless the American people are behind.. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #6 |
17. So you don't want to prosecute war criminals because it might not be a good political move? |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:40 AM Response to Reply #6 |
18. The fuck I'm not vindictive! |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:46 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. AGREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
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pocoloco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #6 |
24. WTF |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #24 |
50. The whole DLC makes my head hurt. |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 08:35 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Hear! Hear! I wish I could nominate your post. |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #6 |
30. Our lack of vindictiveness is why we got * in the first place |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. I would support |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. If the findings are not public, they don't exist. |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. What I mean is |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 01:24 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. As I said... nt |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
47. We need to stand up for the Constitution. |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 04:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
52. All depends on how it's handled, IMO. n/t |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
3. Recommended |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
4. True. We don't need another grown man who could be overpowered by a pretzel. nt |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
5. If we become them, they win. nt |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #5 |
15. And if we don't overturn what they put in place, they win. nt. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #15 |
48. TRUE! |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:24 AM Response to Reply #5 |
29. Exactly, we are not vindictive, if we act like them, we are then no better than them n/t |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:38 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. I suggest amnesty for all criminals, Republican or not! That will be a change! |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Amnesty for all criminals, well that's going a little too far |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. So some criminals are exempt? |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:06 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Well yes, criminals like multiple rapists, pedophiles, serial killers etc |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. So let's just let all the mass murders off -- |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #34 |
49. The Nuremberg trials ensured a liberal Germany. |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 01:39 AM Response to Reply #29 |
56. You confuse vindictive with defend. |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 02:12 AM Response to Reply #56 |
60. I perfectly respect your opinion |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 09:24 AM Response to Reply #29 |
66. Since when is prosecuting crimes being vindictive? |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
7. You're right |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
8. Compromising with neo-fascism is no way to defeat it |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #8 |
51. You compromise with the moderates |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
9. I'm so glad FDR didn't buy your logic. The Repos still hate his guts, but the country loved him. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:25 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. And they'll hate Obama, too. The opposing party hates our success, |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 01:59 AM Response to Reply #9 |
58. FDR governed completely differently than Bush. |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
12. "This is a post-ideological era." |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #12 |
22. really? then how the hell come 65% of the people approve |
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MarjorieG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
13. He isn't in office, yet, but he does seem to be highlighting differences and deficiencies. |
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pgh_dem (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #13 |
35. We shouldn't kid ourselves. There will not be investigations or accountability. |
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happychatter (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
14. I wish you'd let go of that fucking term "democratic bush" IT'S INSULTING |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Did you read the post -- or are you just ranting about the headline? |
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happychatter (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #19 |
27. Did you imply everyone here, left of center with fears, is no better than a fucking Neocon? |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #27 |
36. Gosh, I think you should tone down the potty mouth |
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snake in the grass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
16. The fact of the matter is... |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
20. I want Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rummy, Gonzo, and the gang tried for war crimes. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Who else? All those in Congress who voted for the IWR. John Edwards? |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. No president has EVER prosecuted a preceding one. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Just because a lot of people were complicit doesn't mean the leaders shouldn't be |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
26. K and R |
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Batgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
40. President Fuckwit, post-election 2004: ""I earned capital in this campaign, political capital, |
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okieinpain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
45. agree, and if he can pull off this first 4 years, you can almost |
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BlueMTexpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 02:40 AM Response to Original message |
65. Prosecuting individuals who have deliberately and with malice aforethought |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-27-08 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
68. Obama is trying to build a permanent Democratic majority by being |
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