jenmito
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Sun Nov-30-08 09:04 PM
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Is Juan Williams a Dem.? You'd never know it! |
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William Kristol said today that Obama is NOT change, claiming he wants to increase the number of troops in Afghanistan (which he always said he's going to do by bringing troops OUT of Iraq), that he's following BUSH'S schedule of draw-down in Iraq and not what he proposed during the campaign (which is a lie that the draw-down schedule of troops was Bush's idea-he didn't want ANY schedule of withdrawal AND Obama said he STILL will bring the troops home in 16 months). he's going to be a strong partner with India, (when did he ever say he WOULDN'T be?), he's going to fight terrorism (which he ALWAYS said he'd do), he's going to work with NATO, (again, when did he ever say he WOULDN'T?), he said he's going to increase defense spending and the size of the military (AGAIN he ALWAYS said that), and he's going to follow Bush's foreign policy (another lie). And the WORST part is Juan Williams AGREED with him on that!
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Sun Nov-30-08 09:06 PM
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1. He works for FAUX Noise, doesn't he? |
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Are there any actual Democrats working for FAUX?
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Sun Nov-30-08 09:08 PM
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3. From what I see, no. ALL of their "Dems." agree with the Repubs. |
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Mort Kondracke is even worse!
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Sun Nov-30-08 09:11 PM
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5. Never saw one except Gen. Clark. I wondered about him working there. |
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Sun Nov-30-08 09:33 PM
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8. Oh yeah! I thought at the time it was a great move for exposure to people who wouldn't |
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otherwise hear him. That's when I thought he was going to run for president.
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Sun Nov-30-08 09:08 PM
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2. Juan Williams works for Fox "News". On NPR, he sounds like a conservative republican. |
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Sun Nov-30-08 09:10 PM
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4. As does Mort Kondracke. I guess the "Dems." they have over at Faux allows them |
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to claim they're "fair and balanced." :eyes:
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Sun Nov-30-08 09:36 PM
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10. I would bet that he is no Democrat.... his narratives always seem to lean to the right. |
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Sun Nov-30-08 09:43 PM
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17. And he never has anything insightful to say |
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He does *adequate* journeyman reporting, but beyond that he's a dud.
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Sun Nov-30-08 09:11 PM
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6. He has always been that way |
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for the past 20 years.
Note that he was an avid supporter of Clarence Thomas. :puke:
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Sun Nov-30-08 09:34 PM
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If I knew that from the beginning, I would've never took him seriously in the first place.
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Sun Nov-30-08 09:11 PM
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7. ON Media Matters he has a rap sheet two pages long |
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He once compared David Letterman to Mass Serial Killer John Wayne Gacy while defending O'Reilly. http://mediamatters.org/items/200601050006Rap Sheet: http://mediamatters.org/issues_topics/tags/juan_williams?page=1
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Sun Nov-30-08 09:39 PM
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he's such a RWer! How can these people portray themselves as Dems.?
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Sun Nov-30-08 09:37 PM
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11. Juan Williams supported Clarence Thomas |
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his actions are not a surprise. Faux packages him as a liberal Democrat, something he obviously is not.
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Sun Nov-30-08 09:41 PM
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15. I was just informed of that. |
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What false advertising that is!
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Sun Nov-30-08 09:37 PM
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12. Shit. The Fox News threads are multiplying like rabbits around here |
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Have you thought about seeing a therapist for watching Fox while continuing to believe you're a "Dem"?
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Sun Nov-30-08 09:43 PM
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16. Are you questioning that I'm a Dem. because I watch certain shows to see what the enemy says and |
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to see what guests on the Sunday show Faux News Sunday say? You have some nerve with your comment.
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Sun Nov-30-08 09:38 PM
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13. The considers himself Hispanic because his first name is Juan.... |
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although his last name is Williams! He even denies himself. Funny if it wasn't true!
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Sun Nov-30-08 09:44 PM
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18. Really? Did he say that? |
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Maybe he's prejudiced against Black people!
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Sun Nov-30-08 09:50 PM
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19. Perhaps he considers himself "Better"........ |
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Sun Nov-30-08 09:58 PM
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but appropriate that he works at Faux.
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Sun Nov-30-08 10:47 PM
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21. I am so old that I can remember when Juan Williams was black |
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When he first started on NPR he was actually pretty insightful. But back then NPR wasn't corporatized yet. Williams and NPR have basically swung right together. So I am never surprised when I see NPR talking heads on FUX or any other corporate media. There is little difference among them any more. Mara Liason? Cokie? More in itr for the bucks than anything far as I can tell.
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Sun Nov-30-08 11:19 PM
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I remember a more thoughtful and intellignet Williams from years ago. Either he decided to get paid and sell his soul or as a younger man he was able to hide his right wing beliefs better.
One thing is certain, he quite often spouts total nonsense and rarely calls others out for lying.
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Mon Dec-01-08 12:16 PM
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I guess I AM younger than you, because I don't remember those days. And yup, Mara Liason is ANOTHER Faux Dem. So is Mort Kondracke. It's a shame that the corporate media took over like that. What's even worse, though, is these same people claim the media is LIBERAL.
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Mon Dec-01-08 12:38 PM
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33. Juan has become such a disappointment |
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I believe he grew up conflicted because he was born outside of this country in the Panama Canal.
I used to watch him early on Sunday morning where he moderated a program called America's Black Forum. It was a great program and often had black conservatives and liberals discussing issues. His black history books have been very good.
When he first came to Fox he tried to represent liberal views, I guess he got tired of being smacked down by Brit Hume. I guess he finally gave in.
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Sun Nov-30-08 11:35 PM
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23. Williams defended and supported Clarence Thomas. nt |
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Mon Dec-01-08 12:07 AM
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24. Williams also has had his share of 'female trouble', which is why he supported Thomas. nt |
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Mon Dec-01-08 12:18 PM
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29. Wow-I'm learning more and more troubling things about this guy. n/t |
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Mon Dec-01-08 12:47 AM
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25. Funny that the Rethugs are just realizing now that Obama was never a crazy ultra left socialist |
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They could have come over here and asked us, ya know? I also personally cannot stand Juan Williams. I never even knew he was representing the Dems. That is fair and balanced? Excuse me while I vomit.
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Mon Dec-01-08 12:21 PM
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30. I think they always knew... |
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but wanted to PORTRAY him as such just to scare voters away. And yes, Williams is SUPPOSEDLY representing the Dems. on Faux.
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Mon Dec-01-08 05:08 AM
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26. Juan Williams is a stealth Republican. No Question. nt |
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Mon Dec-01-08 09:38 AM
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27. Other than Kristol spinning it as "not change", the specific items |
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are true - as you noted. The problem is that the way Obama wants to do nearly everything is very different than what Bush did. Kristol is also looking at what Bush moved to within the last few months. (On Iraq, they tried this before the election- Kerry did a great job in clearly answering that Bush moved to Obama's position of a time table..
This is an attempt to argue that Bush did the right things - and part of the proof is that Obama is following them. The fact is that in the last year, Bush has changed his position 180 degrees on many things - Rice was actually doing diplomacy in the middle east - after Bush was against it for 8 years. This is a bid to influence how history sees Bush. Kristol, as a lead neo-con, has a vested interest in that.
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Mon Dec-01-08 12:27 PM
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31. Bush followed Obama on Iraq |
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Everyone knows this. Kristol is a neocon propagandist. Juan Williams is a tool who licks FOX asshole trying to be respected by them.
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Mon Dec-01-08 12:31 PM
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32. Well, MOST people know that... |
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I'm sure some Faux viewers will believe Kristol...especially when a "Dem." AGREES with him.
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