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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 12:17 AM
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NYT: Op-Ed Contributor - The Real Bill Ayers By William Ayers
Edited on Sat Dec-06-08 12:21 AM by Pirate Smile
Op-Ed Contributor
The Real Bill Ayers


By WILLIAM AYERS
Published: December 5, 2008
Chicago

-snip-
Unable to challenge the content of Barack Obama’s campaign, his opponents invented a narrative about a young politician who emerged from nowhere, a man of charm, intelligence and skill, but with an exotic background and a strange name. The refrain was a question: “What do we really know about this man?”
Secondary characters in the narrative included an African-American preacher with a fiery style, a Palestinian scholar and an “unrepentant domestic terrorist.” Linking the candidate with these supposedly shadowy characters, and ferreting out every imagined secret tie and dark affiliation, became big news.
I was cast in the “unrepentant terrorist” role; I felt at times like the enemy projected onto a large screen in the “Two Minutes Hate” scene from George Orwell’s “1984,” when the faithful gathered in a frenzy of fear and loathing.

-snip-
Now that the election is over, I want to say as plainly as I can that the character invented to serve this drama wasn’t me, not even close. Here are the facts:
I never killed or injured anyone. I did join the civil rights movement in the mid-1960s, and later resisted the draft and was arrested in nonviolent demonstrations. I became a full-time antiwar organizer for Students for a Democratic Society. In 1970, I co-founded the Weather Underground, an organization that was created after an accidental explosion that claimed the lives of three of our comrades in Greenwich Village. The Weather Underground went on to take responsibility for placing several small bombs in empty offices — the ones at the Pentagon and the United States Capitol were the most notorious — as an illegal and unpopular war consumed the nation.

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I cannot imagine engaging in actions of that kind today. And for the past 40 years, I’ve been teaching and writing about the unique value and potential of every human life, and the need to realize that potential through education.
I have regrets, of course — including mistakes of excess and failures of imagination, posturing and posing, inflated and heated rhetoric, blind sectarianism and a lot else. No one can reach my age with their eyes even partly open and not have hundreds of regrets. The responsibility for the risks we posed to others in some of our most extreme actions in those underground years never leaves my thoughts for long.

-snip-
The dishonesty of the narrative about Mr. Obama during the campaign went a step further with its assumption that if you can place two people in the same room at the same time, or if you can show that they held a conversation, shared a cup of coffee, took the bus downtown together or had any of a thousand other associations, then you have demonstrated that they share ideas, policies, outlook, influences and, especially, responsibility for each other’s behavior. There is a long and sad history of guilt by association in our political culture, and at crucial times we’ve been unable to rise above it.

President-elect Obama and I sat on a board together; we lived in the same diverse and yet close-knit community; we sometimes passed in the bookstore. We didn’t pal around, and I had nothing to do with his positions. I knew him as well as thousands of others did, and like millions of others, I wish I knew him better.
Demonization, guilt by association, and the politics of fear did not triumph, not this time. Let’s hope they never will again.
And let’s hope we might now assert that in our wildly diverse society, talking and listening to the widest range of people is not a sin, but a virtue.

William Ayers, a professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago, is the author of “Fugitive Days” and a co-author of the forthcoming “Race Course.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/06/opinion/06ayers.html?_r=1
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 12:21 AM
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1. Pretty good read. I was happy that he just kept quiet during the
campaign. It worked out best that way. They would have pounced and made it into more of a story than it really was.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 12:24 AM
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3. Yes he did do the right thing. With the type of media that we have
doing anything else would have given us more minutes of hate.

He knows them better than we do, these fucked up maniacs that twist and tear at people just because they can.

I appreciate him very much.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 12:23 AM
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2. I have so much respect for that man because of his silence.....
.... while Obama's long-time friend (Rev. Wright) was giving press conferences and stirring up more unnessecary crap, Ayers avoided the press.

Sometimes your friends are not your friends at all.

And yes, that's a double entendre. ;)
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 12:29 AM
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4. Rev. Wright is a minister. Many Ministers have large egos.
They are catered to at their church. Pies and cakes are brought to them, and in their own little world they are lionized. That was Rev. Wright's problem. He thought about his reputation first, and felt that since he hadn't really done anything wrong (and I agree with that), he could say anything and it would be taken for what he wanted it to be (kind of like when ministers give sermons).

I know that my husband (who is a minister) told me that a lot of Black Pastors, including our own pastor spoke to Rev. Wright, and basically counseled him to keep the noise level down to nothing.....after his last "Press conference". My hubby assured me then that Rev. Wright would not be surfacing up again until way after the election.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 11:30 AM
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15. And he didn't. Rev. Wright remained quiet and out of the press for the rest of the campaign.
I don't think that Reverend Wright did anything wrong.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 05:56 PM
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19. Well, lest there be any confusion....
... I have no prob. with anything Rev. Wright said in those infamous "God d*mn America" Youtubes. All that I have heard sounded pretty on point.

But there was NO reason for him to do that press conference and he's a smart enough man to know that it would cause more harm than good. I think, like Frenchie said, he was feeding his own ego. The very opposite of what Ayers did.

I believe that ministers should be held to a higher standard than others. They have to set the right example and be ever-mindful of how what they say and do affects those around them. Not only does the Bible say as much, but that is exactly how MY father, a minister for 50 years behaves every day.

And that's just the minister aspect of it.

It doesn't even address how Rev. Wright screwed over his FRIEND.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 01:05 AM
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6. I'm of two minds about Rev Wright. in some ways he threw himself on the
Edited on Sat Dec-06-08 01:21 AM by John Q. Citizen
sword for Obama, exactly by allowing (forcing really) Obama to completely disown him. The difference between Ayers and Wright was video tape, lots of it, in terms of the ability to keep the negative images on TV. Wright had years of it and recently. And his connection was much stronger and visible.

Ayers doesn't look too menacing these days and his sins were long ago. And his connection was really minor.

He let it blow over by staying low profile and it was the smart way to go.


I can understand how someone could feel anger or hurt toward Rev Wright but in some ways it was the ability to make a clean and complete break that put the story-line off the TV. And Wright made sure it was feasible.

Was that an accident, an unintended co-effect of Wright's apparent major on air dis of Obama?

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Riktor Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 05:58 AM
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9. He tripped more than "fell"
He elected himself Unofficial Spiritual Spokesperson for the Obama Campaign, and gained quite a lot of publicity because of it. Some would say there is no such thing as bad publicity, and Jeremiah Wright no doubt scored some kudos for striking fear into the hearts of White America. Obama, being the tactful sort of guy, gracefully sidestepped the babbling egomaniac.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 11:58 AM
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18. Except that the guy married Obama and his wife, baptised his children and was the spiritual
leader of Obama's church.

"I could no more disavow the Rev. wright than I could my own grandmother." was how Obama put it.

I still suspect that Wright intentionally facilitated the means by which Obama could and did disavow him.

I also suspect that if Wright were the 'egomaniac' that you have determined he is, that we would have heard far more earlier and a lot longer about him. I don't recall a heavy media presence when Reverend Wright answered Bill Clintons call for help, or in fact at any other time in Wright's long and very interesting career. He's not a regular or even an occasional guest on national media. Never was until his sermons became a problem for Obama because of Obama's membership.

No, the one time he became your 'ego boogyman' was just when Obama needed a good reason to cut him (and the hours of videoed sermons) loose.

That's what I suspect. It seems much more likely to me than that Wright suddenly decided he had to make two or three interview appearances on behalf of his ego.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 12:50 AM
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5. Excellent piece. Thanks for posting.
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 01:22 AM
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7. What a great piece by a great writer. nm
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 01:57 AM
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8. The thing rethugs can't wrap their minds around is real humans evolving into better selves..
without (necessarily) having a "come to Jesus" moment.

There are people who get to their better selves through spiritual work and those who simply look within and make adjustments when they don't like what they see and many who combine both and use even more methods to make real lifelong improvements.

What the rethug mentality says is that if it ain't written in "the book" and shoved down your gullet by mammy and pappy then it ain't worth knowing.

I'm a Christian, but I've got so much DEM in me that I just can't get myself around any part of the faith that seems to require I judge or hate anyone. And if I go through a phase of feeling hatred toward anyone, I really feel it's more MY problem than God's requirement.

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Riktor Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 06:03 AM
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10. Their fundamental approach to criminality forbids it...
... conservatives continually argue crime is the product of "bad" people, people who are born bad and forever shall be bad. Such an outlook does not allow for the possibility of redemption and, thereby, reconciliation.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 10:58 AM
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11. Unless the crime is done by one of their own...
If they commit a crime they think they can just ask Jesus for forgiveness and all will be good. They can forgive themselves for anything, but they can never forgive people outside of their circle.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 11:00 AM
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12. Good article, now I hope he sues the hell out of the RNC
The RNC committed slander against him and he is not a public figure, he could sue for millions and I hope he does.
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 11:14 AM
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13. I don't think he'd have much chance of winning that suit
First, he's probably a "limited-purpose public figure" and the statements related to his area of prominence, so he'd have to show actual malice.

Second, you can't win a defamation action based on an expression of opinion. "Bill Ayers was a terrorist" is an expression of opinion. If somebody said, incorrectly, that he planted bombs that killed people, that would be actionable as a statement of fact, but he probably couldn't show actual malice and probably couldn't prove any significant damages.

He'd do best to let it lie. He won't be an issue when Obama runs for re-election.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 11:45 AM
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17. There was an RNC flyer distributed here in MN that misquoted him in a malicious way...
The flyer quoted him as saying "I don't regret planting bombs, I wish we would have done more". They took a quote from a New York Times article in which he was saying he wished he would have done more to oppose the war. He never said anything about planting bombs in the actual quote but the Republican Party of Minnesota added those words and quoted him as saying them. That is libel, and he would have every right to sue for it.
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 11:21 AM
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14. I wonder if Sarah Palin read this, since she reads 'everything' nm
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 11:31 AM
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16. Snort.
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