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rhombus Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 10:36 PM
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Orlando Sentinel: NASA has become a transition problem for Obama
CAPE CANAVERAL – NASA administrator Mike Griffin is not cooperating with President-elect Barack Obama’s transition team, is obstructing its efforts to get information and has told its leader that she is “not qualified” to head the effort, the Orlando Sentinel has learned.

In a heated 40-minute conversation last week with Lori Garver, a former NASA associate administrator who heads the space transition team, a red-faced Griffin demanded to speak directly to Obama, according to witnesses.

In addition, Griffin is scripting NASA employees and civilian contractors on what they can tell the transition team and has warned aerospace executives not to criticize the agency’s moon program, sources said.

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When team members arrived three weeks ago, they asked the agency, among other things, to quantify how much could be saved by canceling Ares I. Though they also asked what it would take to accelerate the program, the fact that the team could even consider scrapping the program was enough to spur Griffin and his supporters into action

According to industry officials, Griffin started calling heads of companies working for NASA, demanding that they either tell the Obama team that they support Constellation or refrain from talking about alternatives.

The companies, worried that Griffin may remain and somehow punish them if they ignore his wishes, have by and large complied.

One consultant said that when Garver invited “several” mid-level aerospace executives to speak to the team, their bosses told them not to go and warned that anything said had to be cleared first with NASA because Griffin had demanded it.

Documents and e-mails obtained by the Sentinel confirm NASA’s efforts to coordinate what’s said.

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Tensions were on public display last week at the NASA library, as overheard by guests at a book party.

According to people who were present, Logsdon, a space historian, told a group of about 50 people he had just learned that President John F. Kennedy’s transition team had completely ignored NASA.

Griffin responded, in a loud voice, “I wish the Obama team would come and talk to me.”

Alan Ladwig, a transition team member who was at the party with Garver, shouted out: “Well, we’re here now, Mike.”

Soon after, Garver and Griffin engaged in what witnesses said was an animated conversation. Some overheard parts of it.

“Mike, I don’t understand what the problem is. We are just trying to look under the hood,” Garver said.

“If you are looking under the hood, then you are calling me a liar,” Griffin replied. “Because it means you don’t trust what I say is under the hood.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_space_thewritestuff/2008/12/nasa-has-become.html


Seems some Bush appointees are refusing to cooperate with Obama's transition team. Jan. 20 can't come fast enough.


:-( :eyes: :eyes: :-(
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 10:44 PM
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1. Throw them MoFo's out!
Guess they figure they own the place.

Well, we've got news for them!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 10:47 PM
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2. "Jan. 20 can't come fast enough"
The wait is killing me!

Plenty time left for Bush to blow up the world :scared:
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 10:48 PM
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3. Makes me wonder what he/they are hiding.....n/t
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 10:23 AM
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14. Aye
Same thoughts here.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 11:10 AM
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16. Maybe they have a diaper deal going on they want no one to know about.
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 06:01 PM
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18. With all the people currently losing their jobs....you'd think this guy
would realize he might be necessary, but he is NOT indispensable...no?? He must be convinced that he's never going to have to cooperate with Obama's team...and IF so...what or who gave him a reason to feel that is the way it will be?? Something he's been told by someone who currently holds power over NASA and what they do?...Otherwise this seems a very strange stance for him to have taken....what besides spy satellites or laser weapons might there be up there that we don't know about, and would not approve of? Something is definitely wrong with this picture, and his actions make my red flags of suspicion fly, that's for sure....wb
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 07:26 AM
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19. Must have something to do with money and the "homelanders."
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 10:51 PM
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4. Houston, we have a problem....
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 10:54 PM
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5. Oh Snapz. What IS Griffin hiding under the hood, eh?
To be so steamed about a fact finding team seems completely over the top to me.

sniff-sniff, PeeEffinU! Something smells like rotten fish @ NASA.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 11:14 PM
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6. I have the biggest smile on my face right now
knowing this wingnut is fucking toast and he's the one that stuck his own ass in the toaster. I anxiously await the news that this guy is fried. Nothing makes me smile bigger than a wingnut getting canned.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 11:15 PM
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7. IMO, NASA has been a front for blackbox ops for 40 yrs. n/t
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RollWithIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 11:19 PM
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8. I'm a big fan of NASA and the scientific benefits, so I'm upset by this....
Edited on Wed Dec-10-08 11:20 PM by RollWithIt
Can't believe a NASA Chief would start a fight before a new administration has even taken a seat.
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desktop Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 11:25 PM
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9. If this is true, Griffin should be gone on day 2
Not quite a day 1 priority.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 11:34 PM
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10. Throw the dead fish out.
No protecting obsolete and idiot programs anymore. We have a pres-elect who pays attention.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 11:35 PM
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11. Griffin Altered NASA Mission Statement To Remove Global Warming Reference
Griffin Altered NASA Mission Statement To Remove Global Warming Reference»


Last week, NPR asked NASA administrator Michael Griffin said that while he was “aware that global warming exists,” he wasn’t sure whether it “is a longterm concern or not.” Griffin said he is “not sure that it is fair to say that it is a problem we must wrestle with.”

Griffin subsequently clarified his remarks, stating that protecting the earth against global warming is not in the agency’s mission statement:

The agency is responsible for collecting data that is used by the science community and policy makers as part of an ongoing discussion regarding our planet’s evolving systems. It is NASA’s responsibility to collect, analyze and release information. It is not NASA’s mission to make policy regarding possible climate change mitigation strategies.”

But from 2002-2006, it was. Part of NASA’s mission was to “protect our home planet“:

To understand and protect our home planet; to explore the universe and search for life; to inspire the next generation of explorers … as only NASA can.

In Feb. 2006, the mission statement was “quietly altered” to remove the phrase “to understand and protect our home planet.” Even a year ago, NASA scientists predicted that because of the mission statement revision, there would “be far less incentive to pursue projects to improve understanding of terrestrial problems like climate change caused by greenhouse gas emissions.” Top NASA climatologist James Hansen called the deletion “a shocking loss,” because he had “been using the phrase since December 2005 to justify speaking out about the dangers of global warming.”

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/04/griffin-nasa-mission/

NASA Chief Questions Whether Global Warming Is a Problem

NASA initiated damage control Thursday as it tried to clarify remarks made earlier in the day by the space agency's administrator, who told a national radio audience that he doubted whether global warming was really a problem.

Administrator Michael D. Griffin's comments came just hours before President Bush called on 15 nations to set greenhouse-gas emission standards, an effort that Griffin's comments implied might be useless.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,276722,00.html


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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 11:47 PM
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12. well there's your conflict right there... Obama wants NASA to focus on the home planet.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 03:00 AM
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13. Real techs show under the hood.
Heck, we brag about it.

We *beg* for folks to look, to showcase our decisions.

Conclusion: Griffin's not technically qualified to lead NASA. Wrong culture for him.

Where'd he come from, anyways, private air or somesuch?
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 11:08 AM
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15. Sounds like we need to take a good look at the books at NASA.
What are they trying to hide?
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 11:32 AM
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17. I hope these are people who serve at the pleasure of the president. nt
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