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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:09 AM
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Don't forget that Fitzgerald's office tried to get Rezko to LIE on Obama...and Blago
This is the letter. http://www.politico.com/static/PPM103_rezko_sbh444.html

Not saying that you can really believe much this man says, but I honestly don't know why he would lie about the Feds pushing for information on Obama. Forgive me for not throwing roses at the feet of Fitzgerald just yet.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:44 AM
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1. I'll throw roses at the feet of Fitzgerald when he puts Dick Cheney behind bars. nt
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 01:01 PM
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15. amen
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 01:13 AM
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2. That's cool. I envision Fitz to be the character of "Niedermayer" from "Animal House" and NOT
Edited on Thu Dec-11-08 01:31 AM by ShortnFiery
the second coming of Eliott Ness from "The Untouchables". :shrug:


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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 01:50 AM
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4. Good call.
No US attorney in the history of the country has ever blown a case like he did.

All that evidence of treason and obstruction of justice, and he nails one guy for a weak charge. He's pathetic.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 02:27 AM
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8. something about his overdrama speech today just bugged my ass.
but hey, it's Fitzmas!
many of the women here wanted to have his baby a while ago.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 03:42 AM
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11. If Fitz had been around, there would have been no Watergate, no Iran Contra
I can't believe this guy still has fans here.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 01:49 AM
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3. Fitzgerald is no friend of Obama, and never has been.
That he has fans is laughable.

He blew the biggest case of the century, walked away from it and shrugged. He's more BOY than Scout. He completely folded in the face of Rove, Bush and Cheney. He's a coward. And he's a hack.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 01:51 AM
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5. I can't believe his hero status here
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:42 PM
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14. I can't believe how we've dropped him like a hot potato
The man is doing his job and as far as I can tell has said the PE is not involved.
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keepthemhonest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 02:37 PM
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17. It is because he indicted Scooter Libby in the outing Plame thing
by the Bush administration.He never did get Rove,Cheney orBush as far as I remember,it would have been nice for them to go down too.They let scooter take the fall.

He was one of the first to publically charge the administration so I think that is why so many DUers still think he is the kittens briches(spelling?)I think he is great and all but if he tries to take out Obama watch out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 02:45 PM
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19. Fitz had Rove by the scruff of his neck and let him go
Edited on Thu Dec-11-08 02:45 PM by zulchzulu
They all know Scooter will be pardoned by the Chimp. Fitz overplayed his hand... again.
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Venceremos Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 01:59 AM
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6. The poor persecuted convicted felon Rezko is so believable.
I'm especially moved by his claim (in the letter) that the thought of jumping bail never crossed his mind because he's a Bears and Sox fan.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 02:25 AM
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7. No kidding.
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 02:27 AM
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9. So do you think Rezko would fabricate this story in a letter to a federal judge?
That would be a crime. And he was already down on multiple charges at the time, with his freedom up in the air. And what would he have to benefit from it? Yes, he is corrupt. But sometimes even corrupt people tell the truth sometimes, especially when it comes to the authorities.
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 02:32 AM
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10. But Fitzmas got Rezko singing like a bird right now.
On October 30th, Williams Cellini, ultimate Chicago insider, was indicted by Fitzgerald in his ongoing, ever-growing corruption scandal called "Operation Board Games". This was around the time Fitzgerald got the taps. Now Blagojevich, his COS, and probably his Deputy Gov will be indicted (Deputy Gov may plead and testify against Blago).

Chicago is a fucking mess right now. Whew! I've been research this thing and it's deep!
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 08:31 AM
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12. There are people here who wanted him to be the next AG
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happychatter Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 12:39 PM
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13. I'm waiting for the fan club to get in here and call you "Everything but a child of God"
maybe if I kick this, they'll notice and swarm in with the ad hominem attacks

I want to be a fly on the wall the day Libby and his ilk, get their pardons, and they're all having cigars at Cheney's house, laughing about it.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 01:37 PM
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16. You'd have to be a fool to accept at face value anything rezko wrote in that
amazingly self-serving letter. Seriously.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 02:42 PM
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18. According to some other prosecutors, Fitzgerald is actually a careless showman...
Edited on Thu Dec-11-08 02:42 PM by zulchzulu
He has already leaked a lot of particulars in the Blago case that easily could be used as giving out too much evidence that would not make for a fair jury.

Fitzgerald is a showman. He wants something later down the road and I'm even suspecting he has a Spitzer thing coming down on him before this movie is over.

Look for Blago's lawyers to say that they can never get a fair trial... Fitz likes the cameras more than he likes delivering justice.

You can spare me the roses to give this guy. I smell a rat.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 05:03 PM
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21. Link? "Some say....."
Edited on Thu Dec-11-08 05:17 PM by onenote
Sort of a "some say" accusation, it seems.
The sharpest criticism I ever heard of Fitzgerald came from Alberto Gonzales's Justice Department (the sleazy Kyle Sampsong, to be precise), who ranked Fitzgerald as "not distinguished" in a listing of US Attorneys, a characterization, that given its source, strikes me as a good indicator that Fitzgerald actually is a very good prosecutor.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 04:22 AM
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27. He's still a Republican after everything he's seen 1st hand, right? He's a hack. (nt)
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 06:17 AM
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28. He is not a republican. n/t
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 07:09 AM
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29. You don't know that.
You simply don't know that. So stop saying that.
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 04:51 PM
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20. All of you people on this thread are in sooo
much trouble. Even though what you are saying is the truth. K/R
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 09:13 PM
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22. I never trusted the guy
Edited on Thu Dec-11-08 09:14 PM by creeksneakers2
He had a damn good case against Rove, Armitage and Libby for outing Plame. Nothing came of it. Rove skipped free on perjury too. I always thought Fitz was another GOPer plant who ended up giving the least charge he could, perjury against Libby.

Oh, and Fitz never seemed to follow up on Bush or Cheney's roles in the Plame affair.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 09:36 PM
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23. Wait? You're basing this fucked up stupid post on a letter REZKO wrote to the judge?
:wtf:

Yeah, cause Rezko is such an upstanding citizen who wouldn't have ulterior motives and a need to cast himself in the best light when writing to the judge presiding over his case.
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camera obscura Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 10:45 PM
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24. Thank you! This ridiculousness actually left me speechless...
how on earth does one get to the point where REZKO is a credible source?
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 10:50 PM
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25. something stinks to high heaven
There is something very fishy about this whole thing, and I was surprised to see people here so vehement in their defense of the feds.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 02:38 AM
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26. I'm with you. I trust nothing--NOTHING!--that the Feds say or do.
I've seen too much. The Spitzer thing did it for me. I think that was totally illegal NSA spying and an illegal "sting" for a bit of bad behavior that is absolutely nothing--meaningless shit--compared to what Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rove & co. have done. Added to other DoJ misconduct and crime--and a case I'm familiar with in Miami (US attorney making headlines against the presidents of Venezuela and Argentina, off a CIA caper), and also, after the FBI bullshit about the anthrax case, and the DoJ bullshit about ACORN--I have ceased all trust in any press releases, press conferences, and corpo/fascist 'news' articles based on activities of the DoJ and the FBI, and I am entirely skeptical, upfront, on ANY investigation/prosecution that they conduct. I disbelieve every word they say, upfront. Some of it may be true. Who knows? And some of it is likely the opposite of the truth. It is as impossible to tell truth from bullshit in DoJ/FBI activities as it is to prove that any public official anywhere in this country has actually been elected. We are living in "Alice in Wonderland."

I once held out the possibility of a few "white hat" insiders (Fitzgerald was a candidate) who have managed to stay clean and true blue in the stinking cauldron of corruption that our national political establishment and our 'justice' system have become. And I think it's still possible--not likely, but possible--that Fitzgerald is waiting out the pardon period. He did say at the time that he indicted and tried Libby for perjury that his investigation had been obstructed, that the investigation remained open, and that there was a "cloud over the vice president's office." But I also think that it has been difficult to convince these fuckwads in the White House to leave. I think we have suffered a fascist coup, and there was real danger of it continuing, and the price of their going quietly when the times comes is immunity for their many crimes. That's where I think "impeachment is off the table" came from--a deal to end the coup. I think that's how fucked up things are. Real fucked up. Hell, our political establishment just gave Bush & brethren a trillion dollars in play money, to do with what they will. Payoff for them leaving? Maybe. Their arrogance with immunity in their pockets, saying a final "fuck you" to the American people? Maybe some of that, too. But what Congress did in October--after the Bushwhacks' Financial 9/11--was LUNACY. I hope it was part of the bargain, because, if it wasn't, then our leaders have gone mad.

Anyway, re-read "Alice in Wonderland" (aka, "Through the Looking Glass") for a clue to the nature of our 'justice' system. Upside down, inside out and backward. You can't really trust 'news' written in jabberwocky. And expecting 'justice' from the "Red Queen" is real dangerous.

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