Vietnam vets for Kerry at a rally---on c-span NOW!

[napi21]

I just found this by accident, but I saw a great big Kerry sign hanging on the fence.

[Connie_Corleone]

1. What does that sign say?

I saw John Kerry's name and then below it I saw something about while good men.

on edit: changed the word to while

[napi21]

7. Ohhh, I'm sorry!!!! This is an anti Kerry rally! There is a sign

on the fence that has KERRY in big letters, but now some people moved, and I can see the rest of the sign. It said Kerry lied and good men died.

I'M SORRY EVERYBODY! i REALLY THOUGHT THIS WAS A POSITIVE KERRY RALLY.

There are quite a # of new 527's who have recently taken names that are so much alike, I can't keep track of who's who, or what side they're on.

[Connie_Corleone]

9. The word must've been WHILE, not white.

Sorry too.

[krkaufman]

30. Well, I can understand the confusion.

If you look at the crowd at this rally, it wouldn't be too difficult to think that they were mostly mad about WHITE guys dying. (Seriously, in the crowd scans I've seen... not a single non-caucasian face.)

[TheDonkey]

42. change the subject line please.

[henslee]

43. Whew, Good thinkg DC DUer's didn't rush down there. (tee-hee)

[Pirate Smile]

2. This isn't a Kerry rally I don't believe!

[Paradise]

3. oops! i don't think sooo... nt

[kentuck]

4. It's anti-Kerry.

:(

[speedoo]

5. F*** them.

They are lying, not Kerry.

I'm a Vietnam Vet and I am ashamed of these s***bags.

Let's find out who this Capt. Larry Bailey is.

[dogtag]

6. I hate to break it to you, but

this new group of anti Kerry veterans is one and the same as was featured earlier on Washington Journal. Dexter Lehtinen, husband of Illiana Ros-Lehtinen, is a rabid attack dog and the founder of this gang of thugs. How much coverage are they going to get?

[CBHagman]

32. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen?!

Gee, a FLORIDA REPUBLICAN. I'm beginning to think that state is the seat of all evil, except Texas has a pretty good claim, too.

[oasis]

35. She gets her funds from the anti-Castro crowd. (eom)

[Connie_Corleone]

8. This is Vietnam Vets against Kerry rally

I think there's supposed to be a Vietnam Vets FOR Kerry rally or something around 4pm ET.

[krkaufman]

10. Total crap...!!! Swift liars by another name...

... getting more coverage. "Kerry lied... Good men died."

Vietnam *was* a fuck-up, gentlemen. Atrocities *were* committed. And these idiots are trying to pin Vietnam on Kerry.

I *did* like the overhead shot that showed how tiny the demonstration was.

I'm a bit pissed that CSPAN is covering this non-event. Do they cover all tiny anti-Bush events.

[goclark]

11. Oh my God! The Good Ole Boys

is right on up therr and they are so scary.

Woo! The RightWing Hillbilly's have landed.

This is what I call real trash!

When that Motley fool started to sing and praise God I almost smashed the tv.

Where do they dig up these fools!!

[dogtag]

12. How pathetic can they possibly get?

It makes you wonder how this piece of shit Bailey could have made Captain in the U.S. Navy, doesn't it.

I always thought that things 'evened out' on CSPAN, but today I'm having serious doubts.

[still_one]

13. wow, what a mistake!

just depressed me

[tridim]

14. This is unbelievable

He just said that Kerry said that Vietnam vets were rapists and drug addicts. I think he did say that some soldiers raped innocents (which is indisputably true), but he never said all vets were rapists. Did he ever say anything about drugs?

[dogtag]

15. I don't think he mentioned drugs, but

he probably should have. Wait until you get a load of Dexter. He is sickening.

[krkaufman]

16. Just ridiculous revisionist history

The idiot on the podium now is trying to extrapolate Kerry's anti-war activities as Kerry having accused EVERY soldier in Vietnam as having been a baby-killer, etc.

Ok, HERE's the best line from Bailey's rantings...

BAILEY: "We are going to make sure that the American people don't know what the truth is."

Seriously. This was his closing line. Ok, so he's being truthful on at least *this* point.

[Connie_Corleone]

20. I thought that's what he said.

He's as bad as Bush.

[still_one]

17. For once I am glad the mainstream media isn't covering this

[Loki]

18. These are "men" from my generation

who hate a man who helped bring them home and will lie for the man who let other's die in his place.

Pathetic - you have dishonored yourselves and your service.

[Wind Dancer]

23. Yes, they are mad about Kerry exposing

Iran/Contra and BCCI, criminals and liars who will do anything for money and fame.



:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

[dogtag]

19. I'm starting to worry that before

this is over, anti and pro vets are going to seriously rumble somewhere. That will be really ugly, but I can see it happening.

[Connie_Corleone]

21. There are some protestors there.

I wouldn't be surprised if some kind of fight happened.

[vetwife]

25. You are right on..Anti Vets and Pro Vets are going head to head

Before its all done with. Never thought I would see the day that
Bush would turn the military vets against one another. This will be more than messy. These guys for the most part are certifiable.

[jonnyblitz]

28. ooh I have experienced THAT already.

it aint pretty, vetwife. I think I will go mow the lawn now and ignore C-SPAN for awhile. :(

[vetwife]

36. Johnny and all I need some advice

I am directly in this line of fire. I am a TARGET !
I got kids. I got an elderly Father and my husband is for Kerry.
I am for Kerry. We have Veterans for Kerry on our car. We are in republican territory. My husband said for him, leave the sign alone.
I say and you all know me..this is danger.WARNING...I can't compromise my values but I can't put these kids in the line of fire.
Help?

[jonnyblitz]

46. i think it is up to you. don't do it.

If you feel somebody's life might be threatened, and it CAN happen, then don't put them on. simple. nobody should judge you for that. you do MANY other things for the cause. That being said, I am not encouraging you to get into it with your husband either.I wear immflammatory buttons and t-shirts when I am in the mood to "take it" but I don't do the bumpersticker thing except for the DU one. :hug:

[vetwife]

47. Hr said, do what I feel is comfortable but ya'll I just can't back down

I started this and I can't back down. My husband and you fought for this and thank you Johnny. My husband is now saying, Honey, don't put yourself in Danger but the more I think about this if I can't walk the walk then I should quit talking the talk. He understands either way. I just have to see this through. we never knew it would get this ugly. I have a right to support who I want.
I have a right to pass out those bumperstickers and I will.

[jonnyblitz]

48. i hear you

But if you decided not to, you shouldn't feel bad because you are out there raising hell other ways. Just be careful, our opponents are nutbags.

[vetwife]

50. Yeah and Ijust found out Moby lives practiclly in my backyard

[buycitgo]

22. I want to know what Hackworth has to say about this Bailey guy

I googled his name a few different ways, and all I could find was wingnut propaganda, including many freeprep links

[dogtag]

24. I don't know about Bailey

but Dexter ran up against Kerry during the BCCI affair. Lehtinen was up to his eyeballs in the Iran Contra scandal. Weird how these guys keep popping up and they have NO connections to the rupugs. Yeah, right.

[krkaufman]

26. Now it's some guy spouting off against *everything*

... saying that the CBS '60 Minutes' documents were forgeries and the segment was pro-Kerry, CBS should be the Kerry Broadcasting Network, Dan Rather is a liar, and that the one message needed to be learned from this election was that the media is biased.

The boos when the Bush documents were mentioned certainly exposed that the rally and crowd are strictly pro-Bush, as opposed to concern regarding John Kerry's post-war activity.

[Robert Oak]

27. boy are they pissed off

Well, at least we know what it's about...
they are really poed Kerry broke ranks and protested the war...
and are blaming further abuses/casualities in Vietnam on
him pushing forward the anti-war movement.

I think Kerry should try to say something to address this wound..
of course it won't be accepted but in a way this is very sad...
you had guys fighting in Vietnam, dying and you had a bad war
that needed to be stopped...yet in attempts to get it stopped
I'm sure it did affect the troops who were over there.

Yuck. But, the war was yuck.

[gumby]

29. These people are truly disgusting.

Their psychological problem is THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH! So they lash out in the most vicious and fictitious fantasies.

Carol Crowley is there to protect her father from Kerry's lies, but what the fuck does she know? Was she in Vietnam? Pathetic.

[dogtag]

31. I wouldn't be too surprised if

some of these guys are faux vets. Don't the fakers like groups of total dumb shits that aren't likely to probe too deeply as long as the faker is as pissy as the rest of them? What a bunch of losers. I can just hear them asking each other who the hell is Young Gus Cohen?

[gumby]

33. good one!

a bunch of freepers playing dress-up?

[krkaufman]

34. Where's the pro-Kerry rally?

The speakers indicate that another rally -- a pro-Kerry rally -- is going on. Where is THAT rally on the cable news or CSPAN?

This whole freaking VV for Lies BS is being broadcast, but NOTHING on the pro-Kerry rally?

Ridiculous.

[TheDonkey]

37. change your subject. this is misleading and needs locked

This is vets against Kerry.

[JI7]

38. the title of this thread should be changed

[PCIntern]

39. Veterans for Kerry News conference on afterwards...

damn nice of them too...

[Cleopatra2a]

40. cant stand this

I don't know how these people can speak against John Kerry. He was one of them. It is 1400 here, and my spouse is asleep. He is a Vietnam vet and cannot sleep at night. His night is day and his day is night. He has been like this ever since he came back, always thinking someone is going to kill him. He backs Kerry 100%.

[vetwife]

41. You are not alone Cleo..Welcome to DU..All please read my post to Johnny

I need some help here !

[Cleopatra2a]

44. I understand

I am active duty military and live in base housing. I cannot put a sign on my vehicle, but my spouse can, next to his purple heart tags. If you feel you are in danger, I wouldn't do it either. You would be surprised how many of us are voting for Kerry.

[Democrat 4 Ever]

45. Now a Head Nurse talking about she saw it all

in Viet Nam - geeze, you think they conducted war crimes back at the hospitals? She obviously served very bravely - but she wasn't on the front lines yet she seems to think she is the ONE to tell everyone what was going on out in the field.

Talks a pretty game - but just like Bush - she wasn't anywhere near the atrocities.

[Arkana]

49. Who's the whack job on the podium now?

She's just repeating wingnut talking points and preaching to the choir. Apparently the limited neural activity going on inside her head is somehow convincing her that it's not okay to serve, return, and protest a war that you don't agree with, but it's ok to shirk, drink, and murder 1000 young Americans for oil.

[Cleopatra2a]

51. over now

It's over, not too many peopel there, maybe 400 at the most. That Larry Bailey started pitching his books and videos.