MadBadger
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Thu Dec-18-08 08:17 PM
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With Due Respect Barack, you are not a Fierce Advocate for LGBT Rights. |
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Yes, I think you will do great things for LGBT Americans and I while I dont agree with your choice of Warren, I'm not going to destroy you over this because this has nothing to do with how you will run this country...BUT
But, you as long as you and others in Washington are against gay marriage, which there a lot of, even in The Democratic Party, yyou are not a fierce advocate for LGBT rights at all.
I can never understand why so many of our democratic leaders like Biden and Clinton are against gay marriage. I really would have thought they were better than this.
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Thu Dec-18-08 08:18 PM
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1. He is apparently a "fierce advocate" when he needs votes and money |
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Thu Dec-18-08 09:55 PM
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17. Proof? THe LGBT community has been pissed off at Obama the entire campaign |
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Thu Dec-18-08 08:18 PM
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2. They're chickenshits - plain and simple. |
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Thu Dec-18-08 08:20 PM
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3. Did he ever claim to be a "Fierce Advocate"? |
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I didn't pay that much attention to the Campaign Season, but I am sure I would have seen that on DU.
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Thu Dec-18-08 08:21 PM
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Thu Dec-18-08 08:26 PM
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10. Thanks for clearing that up for me. |
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I wasn't attempting to play Devil's Advocate, I simply wanted to know.
Tom
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Thu Dec-18-08 08:23 PM
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8. One of his reactions to the Warren issue was claiming to be a "Fierce Advocate" |
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Straight from his mouth, so to speak.
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Thu Dec-18-08 08:20 PM
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4. "I can never understand why so many of our democratic leaders ... are against gay marriage." |
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Political expediency (or political cowardice, if you will). ....... As long as they perceive the majority of Americans to be against same-sex marriage, they won't endorse it. What they fail to realize is that they can set the tone. A charismatic leader can pull people (not the die-hard bigots obviously) along with him/her.
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Thu Dec-18-08 08:21 PM
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5. Do you really think that those of us expressing our fierce disagreement |
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Edited on Thu Dec-18-08 08:26 PM by Bravehammer
about choosing Warren are destroying Obama? Have you even considered the possibility that Obama not only expected this response, but that he was aiming for it?
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Thu Dec-18-08 08:29 PM
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11. Can't see how he wouldn't have predicted this response.. |
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I'm still not sure what exactly he's aiming at, but I assume that one of his first big issues after being inaugurated will be something that he needs to pick off some evangelical/conservative support for. Maybe it's health care, which evangelicals are not really hostile to.
But still.. getting your liberal base all riled up accomplishes the "standing up the party" and "reaching out" feel.
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Thu Dec-18-08 08:32 PM
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13. We've been Sista Soulja'd. |
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Thu Dec-18-08 08:22 PM
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7. A majority of people in this country oppose gay marriage |
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From kentucky to florida to california, people have voted to take certain rights away from gays with gay marriage bans. It's sad, but it's reality.
Our leaders say they oppose gay marriage because they want to be elected.
A majority of this country seems to oppose gay marriage and it would be political suicide to come out and support it.
That's why politicians like Obama, Hillary and Biden come out oppose gay marriage. Deep down I'm sure they know it's wrong, but politicians want to get elected.
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Thu Dec-18-08 08:24 PM
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9. They are against it because they actually want to win |
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YOU WILL NEVER WIN A NATIONAL ELECTION if you say you are for it..
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Thu Dec-18-08 08:30 PM
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12. Thats an unacceptable reason |
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You think its okay to lie about what you believe in something as important as this to get votes? I think thats kind of spineless.
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Thu Dec-18-08 09:50 PM
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14. Maybe unacceptable but its the truth. You simply can't win taking that position |
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Thu Dec-18-08 09:51 PM
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it was campaign rhetoric.
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Thu Dec-18-08 09:53 PM
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16. The password is "Fierce". Is Tom Cruise hanging around now? |
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