Sarah Ibarruri
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Fri Dec-19-08 08:11 PM
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All I ever wished for was a Democratic president, with progressive ideals.... |
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who has a progressive cabinet, surrounds himself with progressives, and moves this country ONCE AGAIN AFTER DECADES OF RIGHT WING FASCISM, in a progressive direction.
Am I asking for too f*cking much?
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Fri Dec-19-08 08:12 PM
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Fri Dec-19-08 08:13 PM
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2. Well, it ain't gonna happen this year. |
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Fri Dec-19-08 08:14 PM
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Fri Dec-19-08 08:15 PM
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4. No, you are not asking for too much, |
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as long as you are willing to wait for just a moment longer.....at least.
After 8 years and then some...I know it's not an easy proposition.
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Fri Dec-19-08 08:16 PM
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5. Given the dismal primary numbers of Dennis Kucinich? Way too fucking much. |
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Edited on Fri Dec-19-08 08:19 PM by Occam Bandage
If you want a rigid, inflexible left-wing ideologue, Barack Obama was not, is not, and has never been your candidate.
If you want a candidate who will surround himself with lefty yes-men, Barack Obama was not, is not, and has never been your candidate.
If you want a candidate who will govern to the base at the expense of everyone else, Barack Obama was not, is not, and has never been your candidate.
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Sarah Ibarruri
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Fri Dec-19-08 08:20 PM
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6. I take it you believe right wingerism is a perfectly legitimate ideology nt |
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Fri Dec-19-08 08:21 PM
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7. Yes, I can certainly see how you got that from my post. |
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Fri Dec-19-08 08:27 PM
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9. "lefty ideologues... lefty yes-men" Anything else you care to say about the left wing movement? |
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Edited on Fri Dec-19-08 08:28 PM by Sarah Ibarruri
And the alternative to the left wing movement is?
As for Obama, if what this man plans to do is CONTINUE to incorporate Bushist ideology, I feel I've been had.
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Fri Dec-19-08 09:43 PM
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13. The alternative to ideological fanaticism, on the left or on the right, is pragmatism. |
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Obama ran as a pragmatist. The Audacity of Hope was a book about smarter, more pragmatic government, not an ideological firebomb. Obama is not an ideologue, and he never claimed to be, nor did he ever claim that he would surround himself with liberal ideologues.
Obama is as far from Bush as any President could possibly be. What you're suggesting is not a break from Bush; what you're suggesting is a left-wing version of Bush.
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Fri Dec-19-08 11:24 PM
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16. There's nothing pragmatic about applauding by honoring bigotry it nt |
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Fri Dec-19-08 08:44 PM
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10. And where did you get all that noise in post 5? |
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It certainly wasn't from her OP.
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Fri Dec-19-08 08:22 PM
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8. No, its not asking too much in my opinion. |
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Fri Dec-19-08 09:38 PM
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12. Well, dream on because you ain't getting one. |
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Fri Dec-19-08 09:47 PM
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14. It's an awesome idea...... |
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... dont get me wrong. I'm just not convinced it's possible. I think that if the ship tries to sail TOO far in either direction, those it leaves behind on the shore will attack it, mutiny and force it back the other way.
That's what seems to happen anyway.
I'm sorry. I've always been a glass empty kinda gal.
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Fri Dec-19-08 09:48 PM
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15. It will never happen, Dems have no backbone... |
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Fri Dec-19-08 11:33 PM
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17. Just because the cabinet is more moderate doesn't mean he'll govern as a moderate |
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