Dean's Yale Transcripts Are Released

[pruner]

WASHINGTON — Some centrist Democrats may fret about front-runner Howard Dean's ability to match up to President Bush in a general election, but his college transcript sure could.

Bush, who graduated from Yale University in 1968, had a less-than-stellar record, with what the president described as "gentleman's Cs." Dean's transcript shows the political science major sailing through a slight sophomore slump to earn mostly high marks his last two years.

Dean's freshman year in 1967 coincided with Yale's introduction of a less traditional grading system that replaced As and Bs with Hs and HPs, for "Honors" and "High Pass."

The letter F was still there, but Dean never got one. He earned seven honors, 17 high passes and 14 passes.

The transcript shows Howard Brush Dean III with a Park Avenue address and a course load reflective of those antiestablishment years. Dean took more than one class on Marxism and studied the "History of Soviet Union," "Soviet Foreign Policy," "International Communism" and "Chinese Politics."

He also passed the more mundane, but perhaps potentially more useful, "President and Bureaucracy."

The Web site for U.S. News magazine reported on Dean's record Friday. The campaign released the transcript.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/politics/wire/sns-ap-dean-college-grades,1,384395.story?coll=sns-ap-politics-headlines

[Renew Deal]

1. Dean is a commie

Dean took more than one class on Marxism and studied the "History of Soviet Union," "Soviet Foreign Policy," "International Communism" and "Chinese Politics."


That's what Newsmax will say. I remember that they put out an article that Clark must support communism because he speaks Russian.

[Hep]

2. And as usual

You heard it here first.

DU: Quicker to dream up RW strategies than the RW itself.

[Renew Deal]

3. lol

[patricia92243]

4. You said it Dems vs. Dems = canableism

[pansypoo53219]

14. well, Julia Roberts started it

being in to cannibalism of orphans and all.

[ozone_man]

9. Aye, starting to think so myself.

Maybe time for a nice Christmas break from DU, eh? Come back swinging in the New Year.

[Dagaz]

8. God forbid a President take any history classes

I mean what good is it to understand Chinese politics? :eyes:

[TrueAmerican]

16. They will be saying Howard the Coward is a commie

It's going to be brutal.
I can't look.

[Hep]

17. Can you imagine?

"Integrity reasons"

Brutal indeed.

[Fleshdancer]

5. what classes did Bush take?

I've read articles about what type of grades a candidate got in college, but I've never seen someone point out specific classes that were taken.

[Scott Lee]

20. Drinking, Coking, Whoring and Snoring. All 101 courses.

[slinkerwink]

6. I'm taking Politics of Public Policy....

I wonder if this means I'll be President someday also? ;-)

[Hep]

7. You at yale?

:)

[slinkerwink]

11. nope. Smith----ten times better than Yale

;-) See my avatar? That's Gloria Steinem---she went there.

[Sean Reynolds]

12. Awesome

[Hep]

13. Oh Yeah?

Well superhunk Dan Cortese went to MY school. Top THAT!

[slinkerwink]

15. well, Molly Ivins went to Smith also!

Top that! ;-)

[Hep]

19. Big guns

not in the intellectual arena, of course.

[tameszu]

10. Yale's grad and professional schools still use the H/HP/P system

And in these schools, Passes are not good. They are probably significantly worse than "Gentleman's Cs"--not quite Fs, but definitely a sort of warning that you need to pick up the slack.

I don't know if they meant the same thing when they were used in the College in the '60s, though...

[dsc]

18. To this day a C in undergrad

is very different than one in grad. While those passes probably were by no means awesome they are almost certainly better than the same grade in a grad school.