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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:02 PM
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The mods on this board are good and fair
I have a great deal respect for all of them and they work hard at keeping it fair on here.

If you think you are being unfairly attacked or your thread has been hijacked by the issue of the day use the Alert button.

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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:06 PM
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1. Sound advice, Jake3463.
Beats the hell out of responding in the thread and starting a flame-war.
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:08 PM
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2. What does this have to do with Warren?
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:09 PM
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3. He's secretly a moderator.
Just kidding Mods...Please don't tombstone me.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 07:25 PM
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35. (snarfle)
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:11 PM
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4. The mods created this situation and then pretend to be above it
You know why we don't have vicious race-wars on DU? It wouldn't be tolerated.

There are plenty of crazy internet bigots who would love to come here and rant, but they'd be TSed before they got started.

But the most offensive bile directed against gays is treated as one side of a vital dialog.

Ha!
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 06:00 PM
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25. "You know why we don't have vicious race-wars on DU? It wouldn't be tolerated."
Thank you. I agree.

It is a disgrace.

Obviously the moderators allow gay discrimination for 1 or 2 reasons:


1) They don't think that gays should have the right to marry (they think that gays shouldn't be afforded the same rights as inter-racial couples - the lepers of society in the 50's). note - I'm an inter-racial child.

2) They know that so many "progressive" Democrats on this board would be tombstoned if they enforced anti-gay bigotry. It would be a loss of revenue. (this is the more likely reason)



20-40 years from now, things will be different. I'm just sad that they aren't today.

Thanfully everything on the internet is recorded for history. I know I'll be proven correct one day. Here's looking at you, future generations.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 06:38 PM
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30. I'm a moderator. I'm gay. I disagree. We work damn hard to facilitate discussion here.
We don't "allow gay discrimination".

We allow discussion within the parameter of our membership agreement (the rules). Things aren't always well defined, or cut 'n dried in a broad based forum such as this.

And we don't determine the trends of discussion. Our members determine that.

We moderators all, as well as our Administrators, support equal rights. That includes our gay brothers and sisters.

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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 07:49 PM
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39. Ok, well the rules suck.
Right and wrong should be "well defined" when it comes to bigotry.

Someone against interracial marriage would be banned or at the least have their post deleted.


I'm sorry to offend you as a gay moderator... but maybe you should realize that the rules should be changed.


This discussion would be embarrassing in the future for Progressives. And it will be recorded on the internet for future generations to see. I hope DU won't have egg on it's face.
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 08:00 PM
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41. *** And I know you all have a hard job... I appreciate you****
I'm just angry.

Which I know you can appreciate and I'm sorry I'm being difficult. It's just hard.

I apologize sincerely for calling out the mods. *hugs*
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 08:32 PM
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42. I hope you had the chance to read Skinner's OP on this.
He made the policy of the site very clear in a post to his thread:

"We expect members to support full and equal rights. That includes gay marriage.

There are large parts of this country where gay marriage is not popular. There are many places in this country where gay marriage would not fly, but civil unions might be an attainable goal. Indeed, in almost every state, civil unions would be a step in the right direction. I don't see why people shouldn't be able to say so, and support efforts to enact civil unions.

But let me be clear: Civil unions are not a substitute for marriage. They are not equal. As a stepping stone to marriage, yes, they are an improvement. But civil unions are not the ultimate goal. Equality is the goal, and we expect everyone here to support that goal. Equality means marriage for gays and straights."

If you see members violating this rule, please alert on them. We can not see everything posted here, but, if alerted, we will act.

:hugs:
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 09:54 PM
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44. oh forget it, i'm not going through this again
Edited on Sat Dec-20-08 09:56 PM by CreekDog
.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 06:25 PM
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28. We picked a bad day to quit sniffing glue.
Sorry about that.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 07:26 PM
Response to Reply #28
36. Damn. I used up my snarfle too quick!
:rofl:
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 07:31 PM
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38. !
+1
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 09:03 PM
Response to Reply #28
43. First DUzy for the anonymous Moderator, I think
:applause:
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:12 PM
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5. We look at everything alerted on, too.
Everything. The process is in place and it works pretty well. Lack of apparant action does not mean either that no action is forthcoming or that action was not taken.

Thanks for your vote of support! :-)
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:16 PM
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8. Thank you for all you do
:patriot:

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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 07:29 PM
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37. We appreciate you, we know its not always easy.
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:13 PM
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6. Boy do I agree with this. Just last week I was reflecting on how difficult it would be to be a
moderator here. There are a lot of close calls, hard calls, gray areas. They deal with these disputes very fairly. It would drive me crazy trying to sort it all out.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:26 PM
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9. Everyone should be a mod at least once
It's a real eye opener :hi:
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:30 PM
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13. I would not make a good mod.
I would LOVE to be one.

But I know myself well enough to know I wouldn't be a good one.

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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:41 PM
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20. I think you would make a good mod
I encourage you to volunteer sometime, Marrah. I didn't think I could take it, either, because I don't have a lot of patience, but then I decided I should try. It's been an education and a surprise. Things really look different from back there and the collaborative work with the other mods is something I wouldn't have wanted to miss. So, I'm glad I did it.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:42 PM
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22. Really?
Maybe I will then....I always worry about being overly passionate.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:48 PM
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23. Yes, absolutely, really
I hope you do.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 07:52 PM
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40. I think most all DUers are passionate about something.
If we weren't, we'd be over at Milquetoast Underground, right? When you mod, you don't lose your passion, but you do learn how to be more... diplomatic when posting on the board. But also, your passion kind of shifts from passionately discussing politics openly on the board to passionately keeping the board a safe place for others to discuss politics. (Easier said than done, some days.)

Added bonus: sometimes you get to tombstone Freepers and trolls, which of course is the bestest feeling in the world! :D

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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 10:04 PM
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45. We do things by consensus
So we'll quatch overly-passionate ideas and opinions in the Hot Tub as required.

Of course, you have to be more polite out here in the trenches... :-)

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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:33 PM
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15. I WAS a moderator. Not here, but at a chat room for folks suffering from relatively
Edited on Sat Dec-20-08 05:35 PM by Mike 03
severe mental illness. I enjoyed it, but it was tense at times (like when Oprah mentioned the site in a negative way on her program, causing an avalanche of trolls and fundies). But it was NOTHING compared to what a moderator has to deal with here.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:16 PM
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7. Hats off to all mods
there are times when they are very very busy.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:27 PM
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10. the mods rawk
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:29 PM
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11. I can't believe how fast they are.
Some days things get zapped so fast after an alert I almost feel I did it myself. :P Occasionally something lingers for a long time but only 10 % of the time I'd say.
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:29 PM
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12. I think they do a helluva job!
:kick:
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:31 PM
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14. Also, I'm finding the ignore function
to be a very handy tool!
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:34 PM
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16. Our mods are outstanding. Special kudos to The Magistrate, who besides being good and
fair is also logical and amusing.
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:38 PM
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18. And the fact that he/she always refers to me as "sir"
I feel like I'm on Masterpiece Theatre or something....
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:40 PM
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19. Whenever I see your avatar I feel the same way.
;-)
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:41 PM
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21. YOU ARE GODLESS!!@#!@
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:52 PM
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24. wooooo, all hail the God Warrior!
Best televised meltdown ever.
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 06:09 PM
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26. Absolutely...though I think she is getting a bit old, so I was thinking of a new avatar
you have any suggestions?
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:36 PM
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17. yes, i agree, because i KNOW i have been a bit too mouthy
lately due to this Warren thing which sends me through the roof. I know they must want to smack me sometimes as do quite a few DUers.
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The empressof all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 06:32 PM
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29. So take a deep breathe and walk away
It's just a messageboard....Don't let it raise your blood pressure. Really. :hug:
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 06:11 PM
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27. I sometimes wonder if I could ever be a moderator here. It would be a good experience and a way of
giving back to this community that has given so much to me. But I have no clue whether I would be acceptable or not. It must require enormous reflection and consistency.
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 06:51 PM
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31. Dearest Mike 03 - you are one of the members who made me feel welcome and
heard here. I think you have the compassion and insight to be a moderator. There are times when you must have a very thick skin, and that is the thing you might want to think upon if you decide to apply for this position.

We truly care for and respect our members and try to hear all of their differing views, but we sometimes make decisions that cause members to become very angry with us, and that can be hard.

:pals:
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 07:08 PM
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32. cbayer, wow, thank you for that. That makes me feel so good that you
would say that.

It's true, I don't have the thickest skin, but it seems to be getting a bit thicker over time, which might be good.

Thank you so much for what you wrote. I had no idea anyone even knew I existed here.

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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 07:12 PM
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33. Thanks again. This is the first thing that has happened to me that has made me smile or feel
Edited on Sat Dec-20-08 07:13 PM by Mike 03
good in months here.

Maybe the next time DU is searching for moderators, I will at least submit my application.

It would mean a lot to me to do something worthwhile.

I love and respect this place more than I can say. It helped me through the worst eight years of my life, and I'm sure it has helped others through this horrid period too.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 07:22 PM
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34. Well, we're all quitting this place and going home
So there will be a lot of openings :evilgrin:
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