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Wed Dec-24-08 01:13 PM
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Schuster Speculation: Rahm Emanuel Wanted Jarret in the Senate to Get Her out of the Way |
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Because Valerie Jarret is so close to Michelle and Barack Obama, having her in the White House would threaten Rahm Emanuel's relationship with the new President. Schuster is speculating that seeing this potential blossoming rivalry made Rahm Emanuel go to Blago (without permission from Obama) to wheel and deal for the Senate seat going to Jarret to get her out of the way. Schuster also said that Rahm Emanuel is excellent addressing the needs of his boss when everyone is on the same page, but tends to become erratic when he tries to do something on his own. Interesting take on the Blago affaire. What are your thoughts?
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Wed Dec-24-08 01:14 PM
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1. A perfect Christmas gift for many of us would be finding out that Rahm offered Blago |
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A million to do that.
It would get him out of the way!!
Dude, I'd be happy for at least the next three months.
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Wed Dec-24-08 01:19 PM
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2. I'd love that - payback for Howard Dean. |
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Wed Dec-24-08 01:37 PM
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17. Yeah, let's forget about the needs of the country. |
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Or the importance of getting legislation passed, political offices filled. Let's concentrate on political revenge against our own side.
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Wed Dec-24-08 01:46 PM
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18. Ohplease, how is it that Rahm Emmanuel is the only person in God's green earth |
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Edited on Wed Dec-24-08 01:47 PM by truedelphi
That can Allow or make Obama's administration to be successful.
Barbara Boxer could easily fill that role. Or any of another six or seven individuals.
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Wed Dec-24-08 02:11 PM
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19. I wasn't thinking of Emanuel as the only person who can be Chief of Staff. |
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But, a scandal involving the Chief of Staff and the president-elect before he even gets into office would not be a great asset, I wouldn't think.
It would add to the "how can Obama govern when he comes out of the corrupt politics of Chicago?" theme of the right-wing.
Seems like it would give the Republicans a good start on denigrating everything Obama would propose as "Chicago Politics".
So getting revenge is more important than at least having a short honeymoon period?
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Wed Dec-24-08 02:24 PM
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20. I think that Obama canhandle that scandal better than most of us can |
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Edited on Wed Dec-24-08 02:25 PM by truedelphi
The activities that will result from whomever is giving the nod or helping Obama come up with his current appointment list.
Geithner, Summers and Rubin should be hanging from lamp posts, rather than not being offerred positions of power in the New Adminsitration.
Vilsack is nothing more than a shill for Monsanto - and to give him a spot as head of the Ag department is an abomination.
Daschle's appointment is of great concern as well.
Where is the change in any of these??
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Wed Dec-24-08 05:35 PM
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28. You're kidding, right? |
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Because we've had government run by Arabian Horse type guys, who weren't competent to deal with their agencies and didn't much care what happened anyway.
I think that competence and experience are major changes.
But out of curiosity, why is Daschle of great concern?
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Wed Dec-24-08 05:44 PM
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29. Google Geithner, Rubin and Summers for information abt who they are |
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And what they brought to this financial mess. Is it really necessary to reward them because they have some type of experience?? Far better to choose others who have tackled the miscreants with no one backing them up. Boxer came into government and early on tackled the people at Defense and their 600 b uck a pop toilet seats. Kucinich, Waters and Issa really have tried to block what Paulson and Kashkari are doing. And what Paulson and Kashkari are doing to us makes $ 600 a pop toilet seats look like the ripof artists of that era were not trying very hard.
Daschle is not a proponent of a women's right to choose. Which might be a matter of conscience and for that I can respect someone. But he lies about it!
When running for office, Daschle emphasizes his Catholic credentials. He sent out a letter to voters saying "I am opposed to abortion. I do not support it. I have never supported it. It is an abhorrent practice. As a citizen and as a lifelong member of the Catholic faith I will do everything in my power to persuade others that abortion is wrong." To solidify his Catholic bona fides, Daschle enclosed a letter from eight Catholic nuns saying "We know and we tell those with whom we speak of your abhorrence for abortion — and of your commitment to life."
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Wed Dec-24-08 06:16 PM
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32. I haven't noticed that Kucinich has done anything other than talk, |
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Edited on Wed Dec-24-08 06:27 PM by suzie
and try to get one of the banks in his hometown bailed out. Since he opposed the bailout, shouldn't he be for letting his own local banks fail?
Thought that Boxer had the same reputation as Kucinich, better at talking than legislating.
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Wed Dec-24-08 07:01 PM
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33. Kucinich would have been for a BailOut that helped the local community oriented banks |
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Not for this mega reward for the .1% of the elite. So there isn't any inconsistency ishis being for local banks getting the money, and agaisnt the upper one percent of all banking people ahving these huge funds. Issa, a Republican long schooled in these maters, agrees with him.
Neither man really has any power other than to decide who will appear before his Commission in COngress and then he can question query and rebuke those who show up. His questioning of those people shows the intense amount of homework that he does opn any issue he is involved with (or against) They could however put together legislation holding the recipients of the monies more accountable - perhaps even retroactively. After all, embezzlement is embezzlement.
Boxer has been on Senate Defense Appropriation Committees. She not only handles those matters, she was the only Senator willing to stand up to Congress and to NOT certify the illegal election of 2004. Right now it is "en vogue" for politicians to announce their awareness of how tainted the election machinery may be. She was ahead of the curve.
She also tackles more pesticide issues than even we anti-pesticide activists can keep track of. And she was quite concerned when people in your state were being offered video cameras by the Pesticide Industry, in return for photos of their children after in-home exposures to bug repellants, etc. She forced those companies to STOP IT!
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Wed Dec-24-08 08:27 PM
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36. Sorry, but I've watched Kucinich in committee. |
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He's there to grandstand and lecture those who appear before any committee that he's on. He has his prepared text that will provide the appropriate youtube moments.
I've watched Congressional hearings where some unknown Congressperson actually questions the witness in a serious manner and sometimes elicits an unexpected answer through skillful questioning. It's this kind of thing that brings out an awareness of the kinds of loopholes and initiatives that all administrations try to slip into legislation. And can lead to legislative changes.
As for being against bailouts before you were for them, that sounds sort of like Ted Stevens reasoning to me.
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Fri Dec-26-08 10:55 AM
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38. Daschle is not a supporter of women's right to choose. |
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And neither was Kucinich until he decided to run for President. But his supporters conveniently overlook that in their desire to bash other Democrats.
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Wed Dec-24-08 02:43 PM
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21. Really, you'd be happy for Obama to start his term mired in a bribery scandal |
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because whether it was proven 100% that he had no knowledge of it, it would drag him down and distract from getting to work on real problems.
How selfish and petty you are that you would even write your post.
Our country is in shambles. And Obama is just getting started. And you are hoping for this?
Very, very sad, small minded and vindictive.
Dennis would be disappointed in you.
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Wed Dec-24-08 05:27 PM
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26. Couldn't have said it better myself |
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I was a diehard Deaniac beginning in March of 2003, when my own mother had not even heard of him, but I think wishing for Rahm to be involved in a scandal is crap. This country needs a president who can focus on all the problems facing us, and the last thing anyone needs is for Obama to be caught up with a scandal he had no part in creating (which he would be seen as responsible for nonetheless).
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Wed Dec-24-08 02:51 PM
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23. Wait, you want the incoming Obama Administration to be discredited so your ideological purity |
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can feel somewhat satiated?
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Wed Dec-24-08 05:25 PM
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25. No way. It would reflect really poorly on Obama |
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Even if he had nothing to do with it. And being caught up with a scandal will make it harder for him to use his first 100 days effectively...it would certainly take a bit out of the 82% approval rating, and that approval rating is capital when it comes to getting stuff done. He has enough on his plate without this kind of a distraction.
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Wed Dec-24-08 01:20 PM
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3. My speculation is that schuster is a JACKASS /nt |
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Wed Dec-24-08 01:22 PM
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5. Shuster is not a jackass, he is a pretty good journalist |
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Wed Dec-24-08 01:26 PM
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7. Personally, MSNBS, faux, CNBS, CNN, etc. are just entertainment tonight. There are very few |
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Edited on Wed Dec-24-08 01:29 PM by still_one
investigative journalists around today
speculation? What is that?
gossip, bullshit, NOTHING
Thanks to the communication act of the nineties, we have no real journalism today
It is just his opinion
If he has facts, he should provide it, or be quiet
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Wed Dec-24-08 01:30 PM
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10. They need to fill up space. |
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Wed Dec-24-08 01:31 PM
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12. There is actually some truth in what you say. It is to stir up controversy, whether real or not |
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Edited on Wed Dec-24-08 01:35 PM by still_one
You are right, that is what they do to attract viewers
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Wed Dec-24-08 01:21 PM
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4. Shuster is really getting on my nerves! |
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I wish he'd stop with his crazy theories! I saw a clip earlier where he was hinting that Emmanuel was making deals for his former congressional seat. This guy (don't know his name) had to remind Shuster that the congressional seats are replaced through special elections and not appointments.
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Wed Dec-24-08 01:23 PM
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6. This is over, there is no story, though the MSM would love to distract us /nt |
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Wed Dec-24-08 01:28 PM
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8. Wild speculation, pulled straight from his ass |
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Edited on Wed Dec-24-08 01:29 PM by Uzybone
he has been watching too many daytime soaps or something.
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Wed Dec-24-08 01:29 PM
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9. Or he is beginning to listen to Mika, Buchanan, and Scumborough |
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Wed Dec-24-08 01:30 PM
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11. That is my problem with what the medium has become, just a gossip rag /nt |
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Wed Dec-24-08 01:33 PM
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13. Savannah Guthrie is now reporting that Obama had breakfast this morning |
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Edited on Wed Dec-24-08 01:33 PM by Roberto1223
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Wed Dec-24-08 01:33 PM
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14. Did he have his shirt on? /nt |
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Wed Dec-24-08 01:34 PM
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15. LOL!! He had a cap and shirt on and MSNBC was playing "Hawaii 5-0" |
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Wed Dec-24-08 01:36 PM
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Wed Dec-24-08 02:47 PM
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22. So Rahmmy simultaneously wanted Jarret out AND... |
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.... wanted Blago to appoint a place holder to his seat in Congress in case he ever wanted it back.
You cant have it both ways goodber head!!!
(And I'm talking to Shuster, not you dear OP lol)
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Wed Dec-24-08 03:01 PM
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24. If RE was so eager to get Jarret out of the way |
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why didn't he just give Blago whatever he (might have) wanted for the seat? Blago apparently didn't seem very happy about not being offered anything more substantial than "appreciation". Am I missing something? :shrug:
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Wed Dec-24-08 05:28 PM
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27. Because his new boss would not have stood for that |
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And he knows Obama well enough to know that he doesn't deal that way.
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Wed Dec-24-08 05:51 PM
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30. "SHUSTER SPECULATION?" |
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Wed Dec-24-08 05:59 PM
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Shuster will have a good night and grill the talking points off of someone and be likable, and then he goes and does his boneheaded conspiracy theory stuff. This theory makes no sense whatsoever to me.
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Wed Dec-24-08 07:15 PM
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34. who just happened to be Obama's best friend and rumored first choice. |
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Wed Dec-24-08 07:24 PM
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35. MSNBC Obsession With This Story |
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Wed Dec-24-08 08:38 PM
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37. I've heard the political lore about people getting appointments to "get them out of the way." |
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Everybody's doing it. Or not. All I know for sure is that people like to gossip in politics, and that's lifeblood of cable talking head shows.
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