What the hell happened to Wisconsin?????

[Thrill]

George W. Bush-Dick Cheney, 52 percent (48)

John Kerry-John Edwards, 44 percent (45)

Ralph Nader (news - web sites)-Peter Camejo (news - web sites), 1 percent (4)

Unsure, 3 percent (3)

(two-way)



_Bush-Cheney, 52 percent (50)

_Kerry-Edwards, 44 percent (47)

_Unsure, 4 percent (3)

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040914/ap_on_el_pr/presidential_polls_glance&cid=694&ncid=1963&sid=96378798

[mark414]

1. don't worry

we've got it under control

the youth vote and the city of milwaukee will give kerry wisconsin.

i guarantee that.

[Kierkegaard]

6. I share your enthusiasm, but

nothing is a lock. I would note judging by the B/C:K/E sign/bumpersticker ratio, and talking to people I come in contact with, it looks very promising.

[heidiho]

2. We Cheeseheads Will Come Through

Mark my word. We're working hard and will deliver.

[candy331]

3. Puzzled myself, Either it is a bunch of malarkey or the polls are

rigged to high heaven.

[Beetwasher]

4. CNN/Gallup=Propoganda

What else needs to be said? Bush has made some gains, but take this w/ a grain of salt.

[lancdem]

8. And we have no idea what the internals are

I'd love to know the ratio of Repubs to Dems.

[Teaser]

5. Polls MOE is way too high. Proof of crap.

+/- 5? you're f*ckin' kiddin' me.

[RetroLounge]

7. It's bullshit, don't believe the polls

Kerry / Edwards signs are everywhere.

The only large amounts of signs for Chimpy are in Waukesha County, which is going to him anyhow...

We'll take Wisconson again.

RL

[iwantmycountryback]

9. I call bullshit

That's clearly an outlier. Just like the bogus one with Bush having a 14-point lead in Missouri. Just look at electoral-vote.com, that's not normal.

[Awsi Dooger]

10. Gore won Wisconsin by 2/10 of one percent

Which was less than his national popular vote margin. State polls lag behind national polls. Many of the new state polls are probably reflecting last week's Bush bounce more than he retains of that.

Still, if Bush is legitimately ahead by 3-5 points nationally, he figures to lead in a bellwether state like Wisconsin, which has been less than 2% away from the national popular vote margin in each of the last three presidential elections.

Kerry needs to win the popular vote. Dependence on plucking individual states is not likely to evict this asshole at 1600.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

16. Nader did that

won't happen like that this time.

[Jackpine Radical]

11. My bet is random polling error.

The accepted way of calculating the .05 level (2-Tailed) is 1.7*MOE, which yields an error range of 8.5%. Calm down, everybody.

[BurtWorm]

12. The margin of error is 5%!?

What kind of piece of shit poll is that? They want to put their name on a poll with that much room for error?!

:wtf:

[Lefty48197]

13. 5% margin of error is RIDICULOUS.

Drudge uses more reliable sources than that!

[John_H]

14. No offense to WI Duers: I lived there. Any state populated by

people who whip the free Couty Stadium Ball Night
baseballs at eachother could swing to chimp in a heartbeat.

[restorefreedom]

15. will WI be this year's Florida?

I wonder who their Katherine Harris is?

[Southsideirish]

17. I never understood how Wis. went from such a wonderful and

progressive state to the "Tommy Thompson" Valhalla it has become. Those folks in Madison and Milwaukee must be very lonely.

[RevCheesehead]

18. Oh, please. They probably polled Waukesha and Appleton.

I've posted this twice already.

according to electoral-vote.com
http://www.electoral-vote.com/#news
Kerry 50%
Bush 48%
Nader 0%

(Zogby, Sept. 3)

The surprise to me is Nader!

Electoral Vote: Kerry 269 Bush 233


2000 elections:
Gore 47.8
Bush 47.6
Nader 3.6


Now, please, stop wringing your hands. We're blue. Trust me.

[fujiyama]

19. Bush may be up

a slight bit in WI (some other polls have him up by 2-3 points), but I doubt it's by 8. After all, they had Bush up by 14 or something ridiculous in MO and 9 in OH. Other polls released soon after showed it to be much closer (Bush up by 2 and 3 respectively in the SUSA poll).

Gallup polls seem to be extremely wild and volatile. Also, while I know Gallup has a reputation as an old polling company that was very close in some elections (they were off in the last one), I have no idea how good their state polls have been.

[Awsi Dooger]

20. That sounds accurate

Bush by 2-4 points, basically mirroring his apparent national lead, or perhaps a point or so lower in a what is now a slight Democratic leaning state like Wisconsin. Eight points is another phony bloated margin, like Bush has been credited with for about 10 days.

[zulchzulu]

21. 631 LV, MoE +/-5 = BULLSHIT

An MOE of anything over 3 is poll crack.

[WI_DEM]

22. I wish I were as optimistic as some of my fellow cheeseheads

but I've been sensing with the calls I've been making on behalf of the Democratic party that Kerry is not doing as well he should be especially in Western Wisconsin. This is not the first poll to show Kerry behind, he has been behind in other polls in this state, a few have had him up. But of all the blue states, this is the one I fear most switching to Bush. Bush has done a lot of campaigning here as well. Kerry will be in Madison on Wednesday. I think he will get a big turnout.

The bottom line is Kerry has got to start addressing in layman terms why he voted for the Iraqi resolution and what steps he would have taken differently than Bush has. And what his plan is for Iraq--if he is elected.

I think this is not only what Bush must do in Wisconsin but also nationally.

There will be another poll out in Wisconsin tomorrow--the Rasmussen tracking poll and hopefully it will show the state closer.

p.s.
there are alot of people who care more about how the Badgers and Packers are going to do this season than who the next president will be.

[Iceburg]

23. cnn/gallop pool POOP: remember gallup/cnn 27- Oct-2000 stats...

http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/10/27/cnntime.poll/
...
a CNN/USA Today/Gallup tracking poll also released Friday. That poll gives Bush a 52 percent-39 percent edge over Gore.
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We all know how that story ended....

IGNORE CNN/GALLOP polls ... Kerry has the mo!

[Bread and Circus]

24. They put Madison on Happy Gas....

and they all fell to sleep...

Rockabye baby....