LoZoccolo
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Tue Jan-06-09 01:08 PM
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So how many of you have run for president? [I have.] |
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All of you haters, who are putting down Obama for this and that, and this and that that you don't like, and who he picked for this and that, I wanna know how many of you have run for president. If you would do everything perfect, then why wouldn't you? Everybody would vote for you.
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Tue Jan-06-09 01:10 PM
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1. and things just would of been so much better |
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Tue Jan-06-09 06:02 PM
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27. "Would of" and "would've" don't mean the same thing. eom |
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Tue Jan-06-09 01:10 PM
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2. The Cult of the Personality lives!!! |
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Tue Jan-06-09 01:12 PM
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3. You're right. Let's just sit back and salute. |
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Tue Jan-06-09 01:14 PM
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4. Isn't this what the other side said in the run-up to the Iraq war? |
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"Think you can do better? YOU run for President! Thank God we've got George Bush to protect us and not pansy liberals like you!"
What's wrong with honest criticism?
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Tue Jan-06-09 01:16 PM
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6. I honestly did not hear that particular line of reasoning. |
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I mean, we were two years from the last election, and two years to the next. It wouldn't even make sense.
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Tue Jan-06-09 01:18 PM
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9. I heard it all the time in my personal conversations |
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The "you think you can do better?" retort was commonplace around here.
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Tue Jan-06-09 01:17 PM
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8. I don't think I heard anyone use that, but ok. n/t |
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Edited on Tue Jan-06-09 01:18 PM by LoZoccolo
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Tue Jan-06-09 01:16 PM
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5. For your reference, from my presidential run. |
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Tue Jan-06-09 01:20 PM
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10. Invalid Topic ID....your third link. nt |
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Tue Jan-06-09 01:21 PM
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Tue Jan-06-09 01:21 PM
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12. Thanks for reading! n/t |
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Tue Jan-06-09 01:30 PM
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15. M.P.P......Nice ring to it and yes, Wellstone, republican lite! |
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Tue Jan-06-09 01:17 PM
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7. Hussein Obama sold us all a bill of goods. |
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, No, he didn't....Some fools just don't get it, or weren't listening, or never liked him, ever.
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Tue Jan-06-09 01:23 PM
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13. Some people act as if they've been president |
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and that they know better than Obama how to run things.
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Tue Jan-06-09 01:24 PM
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14. By that logic, I can't say anything about Bush either. |
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Bzzzzzzzzzt. Thank you for playing.
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Tue Jan-06-09 01:33 PM
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16. Wow, talk about a straw man. |
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"All of you haters"
First of all I've seen few if any people expressing hate. Disagreeing with Obama's actions is not hate. Let's not start the GW kind of logic here.
"who are putting down Obama"
Again, they are disagreeing with his actions. Characterizing this as "putting down" seems a bit unsupportable.
"and this and that that you don't like, and who he picked for this and that, I wanna know how many of you have run for president."
You might wanna look up the definition of "non sequitur". A critique of a public office holder is practically a civic duty, and has nothing really to do with whether one has ever been a candidate.
"If you would do everything perfect, then why wouldn't you? Everybody would vote for you".
And I'm not sure where perfection fits into this subject either. How much imperfection has to be exhibited until it is critique worthy? It is our job, as supporters, to critique and disagree with Obama when we judge he has made mistakes. A big part of Bush's problems are because congress would not fulfill their role as an agent of oversight and shared responsibility for governing. His mistakes went relatively unchecked by his supporters. Let's not make that same mistake when Obama does. If there is a critique to make it is to ensure that those who criticize him, also praise him when it is due.
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Tue Jan-06-09 01:35 PM
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17. Good thing Thomas Jefferson didn't know you. |
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He wouldn't have been able to write the Declaration of Independence.
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Tue Jan-06-09 04:18 PM
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22. He would have still written it... |
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but he probably would have creatively and eloquently chewed out the espousers of the idea that you cannot question leaders.
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Tue Jan-06-09 01:59 PM
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18. So we can only criticize |
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Edited on Tue Jan-06-09 02:00 PM by emilyg
Rep. presidents?
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Tue Jan-06-09 03:19 PM
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19. The Constitution forbids me from being president |
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If not for that, I'd run, because if I won, I'd make everything perfect.
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Tue Jan-06-09 03:49 PM
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20. "You make a good point that could have been made better... |
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...without all the whining and reference to another thread."
You're the gift that keeps on giving. :toast:
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Tue Jan-06-09 04:07 PM
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I had to sit through 8 years of Republicans telling me to "love it or leave it". Guess it'll be 4 - 8 years of Dems having a go.
No one here (sans obvious trolls) "hates" Obama. In this country we are allowed, obliged even, to offer dissenting opinions when we have them. Some folks even think that's what makes this country great.
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Tue Jan-06-09 04:19 PM
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23. Melodramatic crap doesn't help anyone. nt |
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Tue Jan-06-09 04:27 PM
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24. I ran for President of my Sophomore class |
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Lost by a few stinking votes
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Tue Jan-06-09 04:31 PM
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25. I knew Lee Mercer Jr. had an account here. n/t |
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Tue Jan-06-09 06:05 PM
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28. I'm not old enough yet! |
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